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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Legality Issue with Selling Cars Question Please Drop Feedback

I have one very direct question to ask.

Is it illegal for a company such as Enterprise Rent a Car to sell a crashed vehicle either at auction or privately without reporting the collision in the case of over $700 body damage to DMV?

Basically I asked and a member supplied me with a CarFax which came back clean as a whistle. I looked at the car and it was clean. Then after I bought it had the car on a lift at the dealership to have them warranty a little thing they said come here, this car should be totalled. The frame was pulled, half *** rewelded, and everything you could imagine underneath where you couldnt see. Chrysler actually took tons of pictures and voided the warranty on the car. The jerk who sold it to me after he bought it from Enterprise when told of the situation immediately said he would give the money back and take the car back. Basically I'm prepping to talk to a lawyer about it all and want some feedback.

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Enterprise auctions crashed car with WAY more than 700 in damage, never reports it to DMV, thus clean CarFax, guy buys, fixes, and resells with clean title like nothing ever happened.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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It's illegal haha
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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And are you planning on taking them to court for this?
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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And are you planning on taking them to court for this?
I would, I'm sure this is not the first time they have done this.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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I'd think the DMV would settle it or something, but hey I say sue them for all they got
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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I'm thinking maybe a class action. but if a lawyer thinks its a strong case by itself I will. Cause what they're doing is working with resellers to help them sell cars as clean when they're anything but.

subpoena all Enterprise sales over the last year from the location that sold the car i bought. Also subpoena any and all records showing drivers being charged for damages to their vehicles. Get DMV records subpoenas issued for all VINs related to accidents, that were sold without letting DMV know. Notify unknowing buyers of a class action....whatcha think?
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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I may be able to get you in touch with an atty who would help. pm me your contact info...
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Obviously I don't know the details but are you sure that the guy didn't do the shoddy repairs himself and hence the blame may be misdirected to Enterprise? In any case, I'd just worry about getting your money back by returning the car to the seller and move on. All the more reason to inspect the car BEFORE you buy it.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Get more claims of people having the same problem if you think it was Enterprise, if it just happend to you only, then it most like was the guy who sold you the car.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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what if someone rented the car and crashed it, then fixed it without letting enterprise know.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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what if someone rented the car and crashed it, then fixed it without letting enterprise know.
Good one, but I highly doubt that Simon

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kspek
what if someone rented the car and crashed it, then fixed it without letting enterprise know.
Yeah, like said in the first post, from what the damage looked like to the frame it should have been totaled a long time ago because the damage was so bad, so if that was the case, I'm pretty sure it would take a long time to fix it, but I'm pretty sure rental agency's have a time limit for how long you can have their car for.
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Obviously I don't know the details but are you sure that the guy didn't do the shoddy repairs himself and hence the blame may be misdirected to Enterprise? In any case, I'd just worry about getting your money back by returning the car to the seller and move on. All the more reason to inspect the car BEFORE you buy it.
While this is a good point, I'm out for blood now. These jerks collectively deceived me and endangered the lives of my family.

Yeah, like said in the first post, from what the damage looked like to the frame it should have been totaled a long time ago because the damage was so bad.
I without a doubt think the car should have been and still should be totalled. Refer to pictures above for an idea of the damage....this was the rear only in pictures. The front bumper, hood, fender, driver door was replaced, rear door, rear quarter, trunk lid, and rear bumper were all repainted.
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you didnt notice?

Originally Posted by SSFWRX
While this is a good point, I'm out for blood now. These jerks collectively deceived me and endangered the lives of my family.



I without a doubt think the car should have been and still should be totalled. Refer to pictures above for an idea of the damage....this was the rear only in pictures. The front bumper, hood, fender, driver door was replaced, rear door, rear quarter, trunk lid, and rear bumper were all repainted.
YOu did;nt notice that all these parts were replaced? IMO I feel like its pretty easy to spot repainted body panels, especially with the shi*ty welding that they did. Good luck with the case, but if there is no evidence that Enterprise repaired the vehicle, you may not have a case.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stylin525
YOu did;nt notice that all these parts were replaced? IMO I feel like its pretty easy to spot repainted body panels, especially with the shi*ty welding that they did.
Agreed, but on a 2007 with 20k miles on it, to be honest with you I didnt look too hard because I wasnt expecting anything like this. Also, with all the parts repainted, its not like you just have a door that was repainted and there is contrast to compare to the other. Everything was blended and all.

To prove Enterprise did it, it will require getting a subpoena for all records involved with the car.



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