Katsu Don
10-16-2008, 02:43 PM
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Katsu/Katsu-don is usually the chicken version.
Tonkatsu/ Tonkatsu-don is the pork version.
-don is the over-rice par sometimes with egg. Such as Oyakudon or Oyakudonburi (non breaded chicken version over rice)
Just got back from Japan on Monday, learned that I actually needed to differentiate the two by calling the pork one tonkatsu.
10-16-2008, 04:24 PM
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Katsu/Katsu-don is usually the chicken version.
Tonkatsu/ Tonkatsu-don is the pork version.
-don is the over-rice par sometimes with egg. Such as Oyakudon or Oyakudonburi (non breaded chicken version over rice)
Just got back from Japan on Monday, learned that I actually needed to differentiate the two by calling the pork one tonkatsu.
Tonkatsu/ Tonkatsu-don is the pork version.
-don is the over-rice par sometimes with egg. Such as Oyakudon or Oyakudonburi (non breaded chicken version over rice)
Just got back from Japan on Monday, learned that I actually needed to differentiate the two by calling the pork one tonkatsu.
Ya gotta say chikinkatsu if you want chicken. It's just folks in Hawai'i that assume chicken when ya just say katsu
Oh, and it's oyakO
10-16-2008, 10:34 PM
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Oh yeah, and to clarify further, "katsu" is short for "katsuretsu" which is a transliteration of the English word "cutlet".
So technically, if you ask for "katsu", you're asking for a "cutlet" and as such would technically have to specify what kinda food you want sliced and deep fat fried
There are HOWEVER exceptions to this rule since Japanese people are really lazy when it comes to talking and love using contractions; "katsudon" is an example wherein "tonkatsu donburi" is so commonly foreshoretened, it's entered the daily Japanese lexicon as an expression specifying "a pork cutlet with eggs, onions, and sauce over a bowl of rice". Another "katsu" example is "katsu karee", which is a pork cutlet with curry on it. If you want something other than pork, ya gotta specify what kinda cutlet you want then: for example, "chikinkatsu karee" is for "chicken cutlet curry". It also gets more complex when you consider that there are different cuts of pork than can be used to make a "tonkatsu" as well, resulting in items like "hirekatsu", "roosukatsu", etc.
If any of you don't believe, you can do your homework here
http://www.ginzabairin.com/menu/index.html
So technically, if you ask for "katsu", you're asking for a "cutlet" and as such would technically have to specify what kinda food you want sliced and deep fat fried
There are HOWEVER exceptions to this rule since Japanese people are really lazy when it comes to talking and love using contractions; "katsudon" is an example wherein "tonkatsu donburi" is so commonly foreshoretened, it's entered the daily Japanese lexicon as an expression specifying "a pork cutlet with eggs, onions, and sauce over a bowl of rice". Another "katsu" example is "katsu karee", which is a pork cutlet with curry on it. If you want something other than pork, ya gotta specify what kinda cutlet you want then: for example, "chikinkatsu karee" is for "chicken cutlet curry". It also gets more complex when you consider that there are different cuts of pork than can be used to make a "tonkatsu" as well, resulting in items like "hirekatsu", "roosukatsu", etc.
If any of you don't believe, you can do your homework here
http://www.ginzabairin.com/menu/index.html
10-16-2008, 10:38 PM
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Hey, while we're talking Peninsula Japanese food (besides katsudon haha!), Ramen Club in Burlingame is some of the best ramen in the Bay. No need to bother with Santa unless you're a little closer to them!
Also, Kisaku's not bad, but I felt they've slipped compared to how good they used to be
Had a Japanese lady friend that used to live a few blocks away from there; she'd eat there since it was the best within walking range from her house; when I took her to Yuzu, she decided to bus it there from then on afterwards
Also, Kisaku's not bad, but I felt they've slipped compared to how good they used to be
Had a Japanese lady friend that used to live a few blocks away from there; she'd eat there since it was the best within walking range from her house; when I took her to Yuzu, she decided to bus it there from then on afterwards
10-17-2008, 11:30 AM
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Oh yeah, and to clarify further, "katsu" is short for "katsuretsu" which is a transliteration of the English word "cutlet".
So technically, if you ask for "katsu", you're asking for a "cutlet" and as such would technically have to specify what kinda food you want sliced and deep fat fried
There are HOWEVER exceptions to this rule since Japanese people are really lazy when it comes to talking and love using contractions; "katsudon" is an example wherein "tonkatsu donburi" is so commonly foreshoretened, it's entered the daily Japanese lexicon as an expression specifying "a pork cutlet with eggs, onions, and sauce over a bowl of rice". Another "katsu" example is "katsu karee", which is a pork cutlet with curry on it. If you want something other than pork, ya gotta specify what kinda cutlet you want then: for example, "chikinkatsu karee" is for "chicken cutlet curry". It also gets more complex when you consider that there are different cuts of pork than can be used to make a "tonkatsu" as well, resulting in items like "hirekatsu", "roosukatsu", etc.
If any of you don't believe, you can do your homework here
http://www.ginzabairin.com/menu/index.html
So technically, if you ask for "katsu", you're asking for a "cutlet" and as such would technically have to specify what kinda food you want sliced and deep fat fried
There are HOWEVER exceptions to this rule since Japanese people are really lazy when it comes to talking and love using contractions; "katsudon" is an example wherein "tonkatsu donburi" is so commonly foreshoretened, it's entered the daily Japanese lexicon as an expression specifying "a pork cutlet with eggs, onions, and sauce over a bowl of rice". Another "katsu" example is "katsu karee", which is a pork cutlet with curry on it. If you want something other than pork, ya gotta specify what kinda cutlet you want then: for example, "chikinkatsu karee" is for "chicken cutlet curry". It also gets more complex when you consider that there are different cuts of pork than can be used to make a "tonkatsu" as well, resulting in items like "hirekatsu", "roosukatsu", etc.
If any of you don't believe, you can do your homework here
http://www.ginzabairin.com/menu/index.html
10-17-2008, 12:26 PM
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Hey, while we're talking Peninsula Japanese food (besides katsudon haha!), Ramen Club in Burlingame is some of the best ramen in the Bay. No need to bother with Santa unless you're a little closer to them!
Also, Kisaku's not bad, but I felt they've slipped compared to how good they used to be Had a Japanese lady friend that used to live a few blocks away from there; she'd eat there since it was the best within walking range from her house; when I took her to Yuzu, she decided to bus it there from then on afterwards
Also, Kisaku's not bad, but I felt they've slipped compared to how good they used to be
Had a Japanese lady friend that used to live a few blocks away from there; she'd eat there since it was the best within walking range from her house; when I took her to Yuzu, she decided to bus it there from then on afterwards ________
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10-17-2008, 02:52 PM
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All over Tokyo this year. Last year we visited Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka.
Found a car dealer not far from our hotel that had an F50, MC12, Pagani Zonda, CCX, Carrera GT, McLaren F1, McLaren F1 GTR Le Mans race car, 911 Turbo, and the brand new Ferrari all on the show room floor. It was pretty crazy to see those cars all in one room.
Choku - They had these crazy cutlets that were made from super thinly sliced pork stacked on top of each other, then covered with the panko crumbs and fried. It comes out looking similar to a normal piece of tonkatsu, but when you cut into it and eat it, very different. They were really yummy.
10-17-2008, 04:20 PM
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1.) Loud, crowded, madhouse dining ambience
2.) Chinese waiters up the yin yang
3.) Chinese patrons up the yin yang
4.) Latino kitchen crew
BUT...
1.) Genuinely good and authentic food! Ramen Club's broth is rich and flavorful, the noodles have good koshi (al dente-ness, I guess you could say? haha) and the chashuu is the half-fatty part to make it moist and dense! Sushi Sam's nigiri is pretty good in that the neta (fish) is thick and the shari (rice) is loose, resulting in a good 1-bit mouthful that has texture and character -- I only wish the neta were longer so that it could cover the entire shari, including front and back -- that's true Edomae style and results in a luxurious mouthfeel!
2.) Japanese owner and chef(s)
So if you go to either restaurant, it's good food but crappy dining experience most of the time. Ironic