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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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even if you don't have much experience with guns, glocks are really user friendly. the lack of manual safety isn't an issue if you don't carry it. if you want to be sure to be safe, just don't chamber a round if you want to keep a magazine in it at all times.
I don't plan on carrying it and I plan on keeping a loaded mag near by, but not in the gun. Having no manual safety is a bit unerving though. So what acts as your safety, having no round in the chamber and halving to manually **** and chamber a round?

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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I've shot mostly revolvers of smaller calibers (with the exception of one shot through a S&W 500). I'm not comfortable with pistols at the moment due to lack of experience but I learn quickly, understand the basics, and have my brother who is very proficient with handguns to help me. The only problem is that he doesn't currently own a pistol so I have nothing to practice with. That's why I'm trying to get as much research/input out of the way as possible.

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Well if you're a quick learner then this isn't something to split hairs over. You obviously have the fundamentals down on everything from safety as you're experienced with rifles. I'd say just go for the Glock and hit the ground running. More specifically a Glock 22 in .40 S&W.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Finally, someone to make my mind up for me! Thanks Salty! I think I'll plan on just that, a Glock 22 (maybe 23). If I run across a SP XD in my hunt for a nicely priced Glock I'll check it out, but it looks like a Glock is it. I have a nagging suspicion that this will not be the only pistol I purchase in my life, so there will always be time to try the others in the future. At least I knwo Glocks hold a decent resale value so if I really fall out of love with it, I can always pawn it off for something else.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Lots of law enforcement people use glocks and carry them with a round in the chamber.

glocks actually come with 3 safetys
1) trigger safety is a little piece of plastic in the middle of the trigger that prevents the triger from being pulled back unless the center of the triger is squeezed.
2) firing pin safety - a detent type pin that drops down in to the firing pin channel that is moved out of the way as the trigger is pulled back, and
3) drop safety - i forget how this works, but its purpose is so that the firing pin doesn't come forward if the gun is dropped.

on a side note, I like the glock 21 in .45...if you ever get a 1911, you'll have common ammo. plus, .45's are some of the most commonly available ammunition...realistically, however you can find most common rounds unless you're in the middle of absolutely nowhere
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Seeing how we're on the topic of pistols i'm looking to get a 1911 in .38 super sometime soon. Has anyone handled a 1911 in .38 super? Smooth as silk.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by musashi
Lots of law enforcement people use glocks and carry them with a round in the chamber.

glocks actually come with 3 safetys
1) trigger safety is a little piece of plastic in the middle of the trigger that prevents the triger from being pulled back unless the center of the triger is squeezed.
2) firing pin safety - a detent type pin that drops down in to the firing pin channel that is moved out of the way as the trigger is pulled back, and
3) drop safety - i forget how this works, but its purpose is so that the firing pin doesn't come forward if the gun is dropped.

on a side note, I like the glock 21 in .45...if you ever get a 1911, you'll have common ammo. plus, .45's are some of the most commonly available ammunition...realistically, however you can find most common rounds unless you're in the middle of absolutely nowhere
Thanks for the safety info, that clears up a lot. When I held one at the shop I didn't have time to examine it closely, just to get a feel for it. I don't think I'll be able to purchase a good 1911 any time soon, so I think I'll just start with the .40. Thanks for the input though.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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didn't even know they made it...a .22lr kimber conversion is pretty fun though

you can't see either the firing pin safety or the drop safety - they are internal but the triger safety is obvious..

a gun's a pretty big investment...

http://www.glock.com/
http://www.glock.com/trigger_safety.htm
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You won't be sorry about the Glock 22 in 40 S&W, Chris. It's arguably one of the best defense pistols of all time.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by musashi
glock's hair trigger? glocks typically have something in the range of an 8 pound trigger. the usp must have a rediculously heavy trigger to be higher than that

I'd go with the glock, and don't try to save money by buying a domestic knock off. Glock's the originator, their design is tested and true, and you can't **** with german engineering.

even if you don't have much experience with guns, glocks are really user friendly. the lack of manual safety isn't an issue if you don't carry it. if you want to be sure to be safe, just don't chamber a round if you want to keep a magazine in it at all times.

8lb trigger!? Try 5lbs.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
You won't be sorry about the Glock 22 in 40 S&W, Chris. It's arguably one of the best defense pistols of all time.
agreed...you can't really go wrong with a 40...9mm's a bit small though
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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yeah you're right i just checked that...they seem to weigh about 5.5 lbs...feels really heavy compared to a 1911

interesting website if you're looking at different glock models:
http://www.glockfaq.com/guide.htm
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Thanks for all the help guys. That's exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for. Now I just need to study for my HSC.

-Chris
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bassplayrr
Now I just need to study for my HSC.

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Study? Bwhahaha.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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what's an hsc? that new handgun license thing?
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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what's an hsc? that new handgun license thing?

Yep. Yet another pointless hurdle.

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