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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Input from Glock and HK owners

Well, I'm in the market for a pistol and am having a hard time making up my mind. I was deciding between a good 1911, a Glock, and an HK. After handling all three I decided I can't afford the 1911's I like, the HK was very nice and comfy, and the Glock was the most comfy for me out of the bunch.

So my question has a few parts. For those of you who own both an HK and a Glock (if any of you do) which one do you like better and why? I liked both pretty equally but for comfort and known reliability from good friends who own the Glock, I am leaning towards the Glock. Would you agree? Asuming I go with the Glock, do any owners have a reccomendation as to size (9mm, 10mm, .40, .45)? Being a redblooded American I'm inclined to go big. Any good reasons to go with one of the smaller calibers (for example I went with a .223 rifle because I preferred its ballistics and the price of ammo)? Assuming I go with a larger caliber would you reccomend I go with a full size pistol, or one of the compact variants? Sorry for all the questions; any help would be appreciated. *caough*brucelee, zumn, broken arrow, salty*caough*

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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you have a fight on your hands... id go with a hk usp over a glock anyday

especially now that i actually own a hk the glocks hair trigger and quality IMO just doesnt stack up to hk's

on top of that the usp safty features are awesome
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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yon top of that the usp safty features are awesome
That's what I heard from my brother (a former cop and familiar with both.) His input wasn't helpful though as all he would reccomend was a Sig. I guess he forgot the part where I DIDN'T win the lotto. On a price note, the Glock would obviously be better on my pocket book. I've got an idea, maybe I should get a Hi-Point!

-Chris

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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as far as caliber remember the 45 will hold less bullets
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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HK. But that's just me...

What are you using it for? I'd stay away from the cop killer... never had as much luck with a 10mm regarding accuracy compared to rounds that get the job done as well.

Both are great weapon platforms so go with which one you feel more comfortable with. I think the only question you should be asking is which caliber. I've always been partial to the 40 S&W as it's the best of both worlds. My 2nd choice would be the .45, then 9mm.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
HK. But that's just me...

What are you using it for? I'd stay away from the cop killer... never had as much luck with a 10mm regarding accuracy compared to rounds that get the job done as well.

Both are great weapon platforms so go with which one you feel more comfortable with. I think the only question you should be asking is which caliber.

I think you're right. Based on price, at least for this, my first pistol, I'm leaning towards the Glock. Regarding use, the usual; target practice (getting as proficient with a hand gun as possible) and supplimental home defense. So you think .40 is sufficient huh? Then I could get the slightly more compact model which I did prefer the weight of.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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So this is your first pistol? Not sure I read that correctly...

If so, go with the HK as it has more traditional workings than the Glock. Remember, one of your criterion is to get as proficient with a hand gun as possible. But if you feel comfortable enough then by all means go for the Glock.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
So this is your first pistol? Not sure I read that correctly...

If so, go with the HK as it has more traditional workings than the Glock. Remember, one of your criterion is to get as proficient with a hand gun as possible. But if you feel comfortable enough then by all means go for the Glock.

Yeah it will be my first pistol. Sorry, my sentance was kind of broken up. I never really thought about the actual operating cheracteristics of the gun. I was going my comfort, price, and realiability, but you bring up a good point. I may have to rent both at a range (with my brothers supervision ) and see if the Glock makes me uncomfortable safety-wise. Is the Glock really that difficult to learn for a novoce? It's something I never even thought about.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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HK USP is a very nice gun, but its also $1000, for a gun that a little better than a Glock, Its just not with it to me.

Did you know that glocks have 50% less parts than standard guns? This makes them one of the most reliable pistols you can buy.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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sig p226! but if your in the market for a glock i recommend you check out the springfield armoury xd550( i think thats the model). its a glock copy at a cheaper price, my friend bought one about 3 months ago and loves it.
a difference between the two is the xd has a steel slide instead of a polymer one like the glock.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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sig p226! but if your in the market for a glock i recommend you check out the springfield armoury xd550( i think thats the model). its a glock copy at a cheaper price, my friend bought one about 3 months ago and loves it.
a difference between the two is the xd has a steel slide instead of a polymer one like the glock.

Oh man, I forgot all about the XD series. I do like those because they mix some features from Glocks, Sigs, and the 1911, but do you knwo what they go for? Itsn't like $500 or so? That would be perfect but I don't know of any local gun shops that have one so I coulsd see how it feels. :/

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What are the weights between the Glock and HK you're looking at (weapon w/empty mag)?

My guess is the Glock is slightly lighter which still goes against the grain of learning pistol fundamentals as well. Because if you're not familiar with a pistols workings, how to operate one efficiently, the proper stances/grips (which i'm sure you know from not semi’s), along proper breathing (again, i'm sure you know), then you'll have a tendency to learn bad habits from the start. Why? Because with a lighter frame you tend to pull rounds given the fact it's more difficult to keep a steady hand.

Again, if you're comfortable enough with your breathing, stance, and are able to control your flinching (maybe you've done dry fire drills with a revolver where your buddy loads any number of shots without your knowledge), then go with the Glock. I don’t know what prior experience you have with handguns. I know you’ve shot rifle, but…

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bassplayrr
Itsn't like $500 or so? That would be perfect but I don't know of any local gun shops that have one so I coulsd see how it feels. :/

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my friend bought his for around $600 cdn on sale. i imagine it would be much cheaper in the U.S.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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I've shot mostly revolvers of smaller calibers (with the exception of one shot through a S&W 500). I'm not comfortable with pistols at the moment due to lack of experience but I learn quickly, understand the basics, and have my brother who is very proficient with handguns to help me. The only problem is that he doesn't currently own a pistol so I have nothing to practice with. That's why I'm trying to get as much research/input out of the way as possible.

-Chris
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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glock's hair trigger? glocks typically have something in the range of an 8 pound trigger. the usp must have a rediculously heavy trigger to be higher than that

I'd go with the glock, and don't try to save money by buying a domestic knock off. Glock's the originator, their design is tested and true, and you can't **** with german engineering.

even if you don't have much experience with guns, glocks are really user friendly. the lack of manual safety isn't an issue if you don't carry it. if you want to be sure to be safe, just don't chamber a round if you want to keep a magazine in it at all times.



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