Im prepared for the flaming, but i need opinions!
12-18-2009, 02:46 PM
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we use their (Crawford) off the shelf products, this includes: pistons, rods, and GT35R turbo kit and we still run our stock ECU w/ ecutek reflash AND stock boost controller 
from our blog:
Model: 2004 STi
Weight: 2900 lbs. (Dry), 3210 (Loaded w/ fuel and driver)
WHP: 500
Torque: 400
Fuel: e85
Motor: Crawford Performance 2.5L S3L-IR (Assembly by LIC)
Turbo Kit: Crawford Performance GT35R w/ BIG FMIC
Fuel Supply: Crawford Performance Surge/AOS Tank, Fuel Rails
Tuning: Crawford Performance (ECUtek Reflash)
Injectors: Deatschwerks Top Feed 1200cc (Custom)
Drivetrain: ACT Clutch, Cusco LSD's (Front/Rear)
Suspension: Triple Adjustable JRZ (Custom), M1 Knuckles/Control Arms (Custom)
Brakes: Front Brembo 6 Piston 355mm BBK, Rear Brembo (stock)
Exterior: APR GT300 Wing, LIC Fender Flares/Splitter/Canards (Custom)
Wheels: Wheeldude.com Rota DPT 18x10 e35 (5x100/5x114.3)
Tires: Toyo Proxes R888 285/30ZR18
-Noah
from our blog:
Model: 2004 STi
Weight: 2900 lbs. (Dry), 3210 (Loaded w/ fuel and driver)
WHP: 500
Torque: 400
Fuel: e85
Motor: Crawford Performance 2.5L S3L-IR (Assembly by LIC)
Turbo Kit: Crawford Performance GT35R w/ BIG FMIC
Fuel Supply: Crawford Performance Surge/AOS Tank, Fuel Rails
Tuning: Crawford Performance (ECUtek Reflash)
Injectors: Deatschwerks Top Feed 1200cc (Custom)
Drivetrain: ACT Clutch, Cusco LSD's (Front/Rear)
Suspension: Triple Adjustable JRZ (Custom), M1 Knuckles/Control Arms (Custom)
Brakes: Front Brembo 6 Piston 355mm BBK, Rear Brembo (stock)
Exterior: APR GT300 Wing, LIC Fender Flares/Splitter/Canards (Custom)
Wheels: Wheeldude.com Rota DPT 18x10 e35 (5x100/5x114.3)
Tires: Toyo Proxes R888 285/30ZR18
-Noah
As always, GO LIC!
12-18-2009, 02:48 PM
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(Not calling the exhaust a turd)
12-18-2009, 03:09 PM
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damn dude, 500hp? That's damn impressive considering the amount (or lack thereof) done to the motor! It's really nice to see Subies pushing that kind of power without going insane on the motor (you guys have plenty of mods done to the motor, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that you are achieving a lot of power without going fully custom on everything... Very impressive indeed!).
As always, GO LIC!
As always, GO LIC!
-Noah
12-18-2009, 04:14 PM
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That thing is NOT worth the money...
Buy 1 or 2 J tubes off ebay and go to any competent muffler shop. They an make you the same thing with the same power with out the laser etching for like $100-150 worth of labor.
Buy 1 or 2 J tubes off ebay and go to any competent muffler shop. They an make you the same thing with the same power with out the laser etching for like $100-150 worth of labor.
12-18-2009, 06:37 PM
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I'm glad that Crawford manned up and got rid of Chris, he was my biggest issue with I-Speed/Crawford, smart decision on their part... I think Bill is a really friggin nice guy and I'm happy for his success. I remember meeting him at the very first meet he ever attended at "Slide's" house right when he moved down from Vermont... He's come a very long way and I'm really happy for him. (I don't know Quirt so I can't say anything about him) (How many of you guys remember the meet at "Slide's" house where we all had a BBQ back in 2000? lol )
12-18-2009, 07:01 PM
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I agree with Gagan here, I really don't think that thing is worth the money, but with any name brand item, you're paying for the name a lot of the time. As much as BAIC doesn't like Crawford Performance, they have done a lot to get to where they are and have a big name in the industry (thank you DC and SOA)... They can crank out puka shell necklaces that cost .5 cents to make and charge $100 per necklace because Ken Block wears one and it has their name on it.
I'm glad that Crawford manned up and got rid of Chris, he was my biggest issue with I-Speed/Crawford, smart decision on their part... I think Bill is a really friggin nice guy and I'm happy for his success. I remember meeting him at the very first meet he ever attended at "Slide's" house right when he moved down from Vermont... He's come a very long way and I'm really happy for him. (I don't know Quirt so I can't say anything about him) (How many of you guys remember the meet at "Slide's" house where we all had a BBQ back in 2000? lol )
I'm glad that Crawford manned up and got rid of Chris, he was my biggest issue with I-Speed/Crawford, smart decision on their part... I think Bill is a really friggin nice guy and I'm happy for his success. I remember meeting him at the very first meet he ever attended at "Slide's" house right when he moved down from Vermont... He's come a very long way and I'm really happy for him. (I don't know Quirt so I can't say anything about him) (How many of you guys remember the meet at "Slide's" house where we all had a BBQ back in 2000? lol )
I can honestly say: personally I don't know Bill or Quirt.......Crawford is a vendor of whom we've bought parts from.
-Noah
Last edited by LICmotorsports; 12-18-2009 at 07:12 PM.
12-18-2009, 07:11 PM
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I always hear this...Personally I thought Chris was a decent guy, I never really had issues with him; sure he had his moments, ideas, and wanted things his way but isn't that how we all are?
I can honestly say: personally I don't know Bill or Quirt.......Crawford is a vendor of whom we've bought parts from.
-Noah
I can honestly say: personally I don't know Bill or Quirt.......Crawford is a vendor of whom we've bought parts from.
-Noah
Im not kidding, back in like 2001... She was like "Why is this gross Iranian guy hitting on me?", I was dying of laughter... Iranian! LOL! My opinion of him is based off of his persona, not his business ethics or anything.
12-18-2009, 07:16 PM
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Chris tried hitting on my GF all super sleazy style once, and it has been all bad since. Im not kidding, back in like 2001... She was like "Why is this gross Iranian guy hitting on me?", I was dying of laughter... Iranian! LOL! My opinion of him is based off of his persona, not his business ethics or anything.
Im not kidding, back in like 2001... She was like "Why is this gross Iranian guy hitting on me?", I was dying of laughter... Iranian! LOL! My opinion of him is based off of his persona, not his business ethics or anything.funny story about the gf thing though, I LOL'd on it.
-Noah
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12-18-2009, 07:27 PM
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you got it buddy.
lets be real.........ALL the shops use someone else's parts (JE, Cosworth, CP, etc...); even if they contract a piston manf (JE is the most common one who will make anyone a custom piston) and make one to there "spec's" but how different are they really? they still have to stay within the proper tolerances of the hole of which it sits in, at the end of the day none of the parts mean anything without it being installed properly and setup properly.
we all use someone else stuff <-- just a fact!
-Noah
lets be real.........ALL the shops use someone else's parts (JE, Cosworth, CP, etc...); even if they contract a piston manf (JE is the most common one who will make anyone a custom piston) and make one to there "spec's" but how different are they really? they still have to stay within the proper tolerances of the hole of which it sits in, at the end of the day none of the parts mean anything without it being installed properly and setup properly.
we all use someone else stuff <-- just a fact!
-Noah
Last edited by LICmotorsports; 12-18-2009 at 07:33 PM.
12-19-2009, 10:06 PM
#30
I agree with Gagan here, I really don't think that thing is worth the money, but with any name brand item, you're paying for the name a lot of the time. As much as BAIC doesn't like Crawford Performance, they have done a lot to get to where they are and have a big name in the industry (thank you DC and SOA)... They can crank out puka shell necklaces that cost .5 cents to make and charge $100 per necklace because Ken Block wears one and it has their name on it.
I'm glad that Crawford manned up and got rid of Chris, he was my biggest issue with I-Speed/Crawford, smart decision on their part... I think Bill is a really friggin nice guy and I'm happy for his success. I remember meeting him at the very first meet he ever attended at "Slide's" house right when he moved down from Vermont... He's come a very long way and I'm really happy for him. (I don't know Quirt so I can't say anything about him) (How many of you guys remember the meet at "Slide's" house where we all had a BBQ back in 2000? lol )
I'm glad that Crawford manned up and got rid of Chris, he was my biggest issue with I-Speed/Crawford, smart decision on their part... I think Bill is a really friggin nice guy and I'm happy for his success. I remember meeting him at the very first meet he ever attended at "Slide's" house right when he moved down from Vermont... He's come a very long way and I'm really happy for him. (I don't know Quirt so I can't say anything about him) (How many of you guys remember the meet at "Slide's" house where we all had a BBQ back in 2000? lol )
Funny how times change but good to hear the new positive outlook.