IAG short block ef257 stage 1, 2, 3

Old Jan 6, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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IAG short block ef257 stage 1, 2, 3

So I was wondering if anyone has hered anything bad or good about IAG short blocks?? I have an 06 wrx limited and looking for short block upgrades and am wondering which are the good places to go and the ones to watch out for?? I am looking for the more power ranges of 600 to 800 so stage 2 and stage 3 is what I am looking towards. Just looking for better quality for my buck. Thank you
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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I'm thinking you should probably have this discussion with a tuner/shop

You are in luck because you are in Hayward and so is GST Motorsports. They regularly build and race cars with that kind of power.

Give Mike a call, he owns the place...watch out for his shop dog
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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If you're talking about 600-800 HP I would not just buy an off the shelf block.

I'd call mike at GST and have him do a sleeved block for you. No sleeves, not worth even bothering.
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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No sleeve you will be buying a new short block soon anyway with that kind of power IMO
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by glenspen
I'm thinking you should probably have this discussion with a tuner/shop

You are in luck because you are in Hayward and so is GST Motorsports. They regularly build and race cars with that kind of power.

Give Mike a call, he owns the place...watch out for his shop dog
Thanks for the advice, I have talked to him about short blocks. I am new to subi s but been around cars my entire life, how is gst motorsports??
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 03:31 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 03:59 PM
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And that's an old video. The car is way gnarlier looking... and faster. Running like 2-300 more wheel hp than it was then.
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Whoa, 600-800 HP Range? What is the car being setup for? Time Attack? Drag Racing? Other?
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:23 PM
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I just got one from Outfront Motorsports. It's nice, but if I was doing if over I'd have GST build it. Better to deal local for engine stuff, especially if you're dealing with that kind of power
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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I won't build a 600-800whp motor for anyone off the street, I'd personally recommend sticking with IAG. There's so much involved with making those levels of power that the internet just can't resolve for folks unfortunately.
Old Jan 6, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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I do have to point out... anything making that kind of power on a sub 3 liter engine ain't gonna last very long, especially in a street car.

Expect to have an easy $20K into the motor (Cosworth had a 600HP Long Block that sold for ~ $16K ) . Not to mention the $10K+ you'll have in the transmission, $1000 for the driveshaft, $2000 for axels... we haven't even gotten into what you'll have to do to the chassis to stop the car for twisting itself up

Starting to get the idea?
Old Jan 7, 2016 | 04:01 AM
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To add to all the above, a subaru in that kind of range is just not going to be driveable. It won't be fun if you get in traffic (heavy multi plate clutch), it won't be geared for the freeway, the ride on rough city roads will be crap, and so on.

Just a personal opinion but the 350-400 range (and supporting mods) is about as high as one wants to go with a Subaru that will see almost all city/street driving. Anything above that and you start running into the above issues. Trust me on this, I have had some beast cars in my day.

1)650hp supercharged BB Chevy Nova: With all the mods it was undriveable on the street. The stall speed on the torque converter alone made for chirps off every single stopsign/stoplight.

2)225hp VW bug type 1: Again, the clutch sucked in traffic, it chattered at best from stopsigns and lights. The ride was like rock with the mods to keep it from lifting the front end and keep it from twisting itself up.

3)450hp SB Vega: No bueno at all. That thing was just unuseable at anything but the track. Hit the gas at all and it wanted to twist itself into a knot and kill you.

The point I am trying to make is, really sit back and think before you start to shell out money for your 'uber' car. Think about the long term, will you really want to drive this thing every day? will it be fun to scoot around in? could you really take it on a drive from home to L.A. and back and feel comfortable?
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Yes yes and yes to all of these posts. This is honestly one of the most sensible responses I've seen in a long time. LOL!

I personally think anything over 400 on a street car is useless. And as for drivability. I'm on a 3 puck right now. It sucks. I could not imagine driving to drive with 3 times the HP AND an even stiffer clutch. Screw that.
Old Jan 7, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowend
I just got one from Outfront Motorsports. It's nice, but if I was doing if over I'd have GST build it. Better to deal local for engine stuff, especially if you're dealing with that kind of power
outfront is local to me

I still am hanging on to an EJ22t closed deck with piston squirters for some reason. Thought of big power, then thought differently.
Old Jan 7, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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Think about the long term, will you really want to drive this thing every day? will it be fun to scoot around in? could you really take it on a drive from home to L.A. and back and feel comfortable?
The reason why my Subaru doesnt get driven.

Its fun to blast around town and do a get on the freeway pull, but thats all over in 10 mins.

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