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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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I don't think the 35R would work with the TMIC you have above as pretty sure the rotated turbo setups would require a FMIC to work properly (not certain of this, but really never seen a rotated turbo setup with a TMIC).

I've heard good things about ATP Turbos as well, but they are quite a bit more than the other turbos you have listed above.

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=SUB
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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My vote based on the rest of your supporting mods is for the TD05-20G. 1300cc is way more injector than you will need for an 18G anyhow. I know it's been mentioned already, but are you planning on running E85 or meth in the future?
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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My vote based on the rest of your supporting mods is for the TD05-20G. 1300cc is way more injector than you will need for an 18G anyhow. I know it's been mentioned already, but are you planning on running E85 or meth in the future?


E85 tune by EQ tuning. CORN JUICE ALL THE WAY!

The only reason I got the 1300cc injectors was because of a possibility of going to a larger turbo in the future, but it doesn't hurt to have some leeway with the injectors, at least that's what I think. 20G might be an overkill turbo for me because i'm not looking at putting out crazy @ss numbers. the 18G MAY suffice for now kuz im looking to transition to 300-350WHP on corn juice, that depends on how I feel with an 189G after a while
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Yeah the 35r is too much turbo for the 2.0 I agree grab the bigger turbo and sell it.

The problem then however is you are stuck with that turbo until it sells and it may take longer. Does the company have somthing closer to what you want perhaps a 20g????
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Shayhan27
Yeah the 35r is too much turbo for the 2.0 I agree grab the bigger turbo and sell it.

The problem then however is you are stuck with that turbo until it sells and it may take longer. Does the company have somthing closer to what you want perhaps a 20g????

Speed Element told me to call them back on Monday and let them know what I wanna do, so I have to make a decision by then.

I think you're right, the most obvious route would be to have them ship the turbo and sell it but then I could be stuck with the turbo for a while. I also have the choice to just get a refund for the 18G and get my money back without risking being stuck with the 35R and not selling...I wish there was an automatic decision calculator!
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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if your really looking for 300-350whp you should really go with the TD05-20G.. and as said before, 1300cc injectors seem overkill for your target numbers.. something in the 800cc's would be ideal plus the little bit of head room..

i second Shayhan27.. the downtime you'll have "trying" to sell the 35r will suck. i would ask to have SpeedElement if it would be any easier to get a 20G.
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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if your really looking for 300-350whp you should really go with the TD05-20G.. and as said before, 1300cc injectors seem overkill for your target numbers.. something in the 800cc's would be ideal plus the little bit of head room..

i second Shayhan27.. the downtime you'll have "trying" to sell the 35r will suck. i would ask to have SpeedElement if it would be any easier to get a 20G.

Ya don't think the 20G will break my tranny will it? haha, that's the only thing im afraid of. I'll only have a clutch kit and a lighter flywheel
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Even a 20g doesn't need 1300cc injectors.

I really don't like lag, so I'd stay away from the 35r. However, do like someone else posted, and see if you can get a decent discount on the 18g instead of the 35r and just wait it out. With turbos, you never know when you'll be able to sell it, so you could be sitting on it for a long time.
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Based on your mods as well as being a 2.0 on a stock WRX 5spd.

I'd go with the VF34 decent power for the 2.0L + if you do the E85 tune and have an Accessport you can switch as often as you need when you want that extra power. VF34 is OEM on some JDM STI's can't go wrong with OEM. VF's are solid for our cars. You can also do the VF43 or VF48(?).

If you were on a 2.5L that might be a different story.

Although your WRX's 5spd isn't like the early 02 tranny, I wouldn't want to put over 300whp (depending on how you drive) on it. If you do throw tons of power on the stock tranny just set aside money for the future in case you blow a gear as it is not cheap.

I'm not a fan of the lightened flywheel = noisy. Not much benefit.
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Even a 20g doesn't need 1300cc injectors.

I really don't like lag, so I'd stay away from the 35r. However, do like someone else posted, and see if you can get a decent discount on the 18g instead of the 35r and just wait it out. With turbos, you never know when you'll be able to sell it, so you could be sitting on it for a long time.

Yeah, I think I'll just wait until monday, head on over to speed element and see if Ryan can ask those guys if I can get a discount on the 18G. I'd prefer to NOT wait but I'm really in no rush to get everything installed and tuned.

Worst case scenario, if Ryan can't get a discount on the 18G from them, I'll just take the 35R and try to sell it. In the meantime, I found on extremepsi.com that they have the 18G's in stock, so I am also going to call them monday morning to verify that they actually do have the 18G's in stock and are ready to ship (though their website says 2-3 days).





Originally Posted by adizon
Based on your mods as well as being a 2.0 on a stock WRX 5spd.

I'd go with the VF34 decent power for the 2.0L + if you do the E85 tune and have an Accessport you can switch as often as you need when you want that extra power. VF34 is OEM on some JDM STI's can't go wrong with OEM. VF's are solid for our cars. You can also do the VF43 or VF48(?).

If you were on a 2.5L that might be a different story.

Although your WRX's 5spd isn't like the early 02 tranny, I wouldn't want to put over 300whp (depending on how you drive) on it. If you do throw tons of power on the stock tranny just set aside money for the future in case you blow a gear as it is not cheap.

I'm not a fan of the lightened flywheel = noisy. Not much benefit.

That's what I was hoping for, I could do a tune for 91 octane with all the mods and then drain and refill with E85 and then do an E85 tune, but would I have to use up all the E85 before I refill wit 91 and vice versa?
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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I don't see that anyone has even asked this.... WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?



If you are going to just sell the 35r and buy an 18g then just wait for the 18g. There is no guarantee that you'll be able to sell the 35r all that quickly and for enough money to justify the effort. That and it just seems silly to me. They are trying to do you a solid and you're taking advantage.

You're going to get a BUTT load of opinions and it doesn't really make any sense to me to go back and forth on them.

I'd decide what your goals are. Give your tuner a call and ask them what turbo to go with.


Basically... VF34 will get you 265-285. 18g you're talking 285-325.

I don't think a 20g is necessary. You're not going to get that much gain on the 18g. The 35r is going to be useless to you until the upper RPM's and unless you get a 100 octane tune or e85 and probably some head work and cams. Pointless on a daily driver in my opinion... even a 2.5 liter one.

The problem with opinions is they are just that...opinions. Mine would be to either run the 18g. For me... I'd run the vf34. I think it's a perfect turbo for a 2.0 liter daily driver. 285whp is plenty.
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I don't see that anyone has even asked this.... WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?



If you are going to just sell the 35r and buy an 18g then just wait for the 18g. There is no guarantee that you'll be able to sell the 35r all that quickly and for enough money to justify the effort. That and it just seems silly to me. They are trying to do you a solid and you're taking advantage.

You're going to get a BUTT load of opinions and it doesn't really make any sense to me to go back and forth on them.

I'd decide what your goals are. Give your tuner a call and ask them what turbo to go with.


Basically... VF34 will get you 265-285. 18g you're talking 285-325.

I don't think a 20g is necessary. You're not going to get that much gain on the 18g. The 35r is going to be useless to you until the upper RPM's and unless you get a 100 octane tune or e85 and probably some head work and cams. Pointless on a daily driver in my opinion... even a 2.5 liter one.

The problem with opinions is they are just that...opinions. Mine would be to either run the 18g. For me... I'd run the vf34. I think it's a perfect turbo for a 2.0 liter daily driver. 285whp is plenty.


I'm pretty sure I stated my goals, but maybe I didn't, lol.

My goal is to get between 280-350WHP, and I'm going to get an E85 tune from EQ Tuning, which I'm sure will put me between 300-350WHP on an 18G with no problem. I've thought about the VF34 before as well, but the 18G, to me, has more benefits than the VF34 because I could rebuilt the 18G to a larger turbo in the future....so now it's a tossup between the 18G or the VF34

My girl is also my daily driver as well, but occasionally I take her to the dragstrip.

I just shot another email to brendan at EQ (I've sent so many to him so far, lol I feel bad), so i'll wait to hear back from him
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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If you're going e85 the 18g is a great turbo. But I'd basically do whatever your chosen tuner tells you to do.
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
If you're going e85 the 18g is a great turbo. But I'd basically do whatever your chosen tuner tells you to do.
Yup, just gonna wait until monday to hear back from him and see what he thinks.

It'll be a tossup between the 18G and the VF34 anyways. If I don't hear back from EQ monday, I'll ask what Ryan thinks when I go to pickup my injectors and top mount on monday too.



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