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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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I remember years ago when the C-RAM stuff was "new" and some discovery channel thing reported on it. Still bad ***.

What bothers me, is that some 3rd world poor terrorist uses a cheap *** mortor and to counter it we have to spend 1000000% of that. The economics of that is not sustainable in a long term conflict without major consequences to the supplying economy.
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
I remember years ago when the C-RAM stuff was "new" and some discovery channel thing reported on it. Still bad ***.

What bothers me, is that some 3rd world poor terrorist uses a cheap *** mortor and to counter it we have to spend 1000000% of that. The economics of that is not sustainable in a long term conflict without major consequences to the supplying economy.
While phalanx isn't cheap the trade off is well worth it considering the people and equipment saved exceed the cost of upkeep/firing. Yeah it sucks to think about the costs but fire control systems are a necessity to keep the troops safe. The bulletstoppers out there love hearing these things because it gives them a sense of security.

I can neither confirm nor deny that these have been used on pirates, literally as I haven't done it nor seen it. I can say that there were a few that almost crapped their pants at the sight of one up...
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
I remember years ago when the C-RAM stuff was "new" and some discovery channel thing reported on it. Still bad ***.

What bothers me, is that some 3rd world poor terrorist uses a cheap *** mortor and to counter it we have to spend 1000000% of that. The economics of that is not sustainable in a long term conflict without major consequences to the supplying economy.
Also consider the CIWS system was developed in the 70's. This isn't exactly cutting edge technology and the process to build them has become streamlined. It's also nearing the end of if it's very long lifespan. Although it does take about 2 years of school to operate/maintain it
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C-RAM is exactly phalanx (CIWS) on land.
ahh the good ole woodpecker...that thing sucks when you just come off the midwatch and the GMs decide they need to do a FAMFIRE...*******s...
Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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ahh the good ole woodpecker...that thing sucks when you just come off the midwatch and the GMs decide they need to do a FAMFIRE...*******s...
That would be the FCs. GMs aren't allowed to fire anything that sophisticated
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That would be the FCs. GMs aren't allowed to fire anything that sophisticated
I stand corrected , they were FC's...idk why I was thinking it was the GMs...oh yeah..all the .50 cal fam fires THEY were doing lol.
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What's scary is that system is considered dated now... I believe its been replaced on most of our ships
My dad has been working (Lockheed) on THAAD for land based defense. The thing doesn't even have an explosive on board; it hits so goddamn hard that all of the energy just converts to heat.

There is a smaller but similar system on our Destroyers

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80mm shoulder fired mortar.
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Originally Posted by Lowend
What's scary is that system is considered dated now... I believe its been replaced on most of our ships
My dad has been working (Lockheed) on THAAD for land based defense. The thing doesn't even have an explosive on board; it hits so goddamn hard that all of the energy just converts to heat.

There is a smaller but similar system on our Destroyers

Yeah, I saw that on Future Weapons. It uses kinetic energy to destroy incoming missiles or whatever, sort of the same idea just with a large missile (no explosives) instead of 50,000 20mm rounds covering the sky. The C-RAM is still cheaper than the missile option. The THAAD is our 3rd layer of defense against incoming missiles. Pretty bad *** that it can be that accurate and kill an ICBM in space without using explosives! (It literally knocks the missile out of the sky with kinetic energy)



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