TO HELL W/ SUVs!!!

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 02:29 AM
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Some jackass in a blue Ford Explorer almost sideswiped me earlier tonight because the old fart wanted to be a badass and try to zip in front of me before the two lanes merged. Grrrr. When the road unmerged again, I let him through and the focker flipped me off!

I dunno, I can't say all SUV drivers are bad. My friend can drive his Ford Explorer pretty well and it's a stick. He does some amazing things in that vehicle that you'd think only sport compacts can do. @_@
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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well that guy had no business flippin the bird.... like so

anyone want to discuss stupidity as a genetic defect?

that goes for more than just SUV drivers that shouldn't be driving them

i-clubbers that have offroad/weekend warriors or some sort.. please make good use of the i-club decal so we know ur good

i got one on my 240 so when i wave to any suby they know its a greeting and not a challenge hehe
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by BAN SUVS
We're all forgetting thae fact that the damage was a direct result of someone driving an SUV. The minivan they probably should be driving would have hit the WRX's bumber, thereby causing only slight damage to the bumper cover instead of smashing things in.
No no no.. That is not a fact, that's an opinion. Here's mine: The damage was a direct result of someone not qualified to drive the vehicle they were driving. By your logic, everything with a bumper or appendage higher than an Impreza bumper should be illegal. I say, people should learn to drive before they are unleashed to the public no matter what they are driving. Instead of SD's car being "correctly damaged" by your opinion, it shouldn't have been damaged at all.

It's not the SUV's fault - it wouldn't have done that by itself. It's the incompetent driver's fault.

BTW - if I were ever in a place to own a minivan, I wouldn't. I hate minivans with a passion. I would probably end up with another Pathfinder or something because it's a good, fun, useful vehicle and it's pretty fun to drive. I would also continue to do my best not to hit other cars.

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by perpetualdrift
..........i-clubbers that have offroad/weekend warriors or some sort.. please make good use of the i-club decal so we know ur good

i got one on my 240 so when i wave to any suby they know its a greeting and not a challenge hehe
Thats exactly why I bought Silver I-club stickers, for the subi, AND blue I-club stickers for the Tahoe

hmmmmmm, I think next week I am gonna bring the Tahoe to UCKK, for S**TS & Giggles

-Ted

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Im with everyone on the hating SUV's. They suck, 70% of people the drive them cant handle such a big car. When I get to Pleasaton (land fo SUV's) bart every morning there are at least 5-6 spaces every morning that some stupid *** SUV driver used becuase they cannot get their car in one spot. Its not that the spots are too small, its that people dont knwo how to park. I drove my familys Land Cruiser (tahoe and hauling havy things car) last summer and I hated it more then anything.
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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Stupid, inattentive, moronic, careless, irresponsible driver in a Civic or Legacy sucks. Putting that driver in a 4,000 SUV sucks more. Period.

SUVs, like guns, don't cause any problems in and of themselves (if you ignore the rediculously low mileage, extra resources consumed, and physical size taking up roadways and parking spaces) but put a dumbass behind the wheel, and their mistakes and misactions are magnified by a great degree.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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2. prone to flipping. SUVs flip way too often, very dangerous for ppl who they wind up smashing.
you'd be surprised... IIRC, one year when all this SUV flippin incidents, guess which VEHICLE was #1... a corvette...

from the NHTSA website:



while an SUV is more LIKELY to roll, since there are more passenger cars than SUVs, the numbers say that more rolls are of cars...


4. they hinder safe vision on the roads. You cannot see past these bastards. Even if you're not tailgating and he slams on his breaks, you may be toast because you could not see the stop and go traffic ahead of him.
guess the BRAKE lights dont work either?!?


Anyone who buys one of these overpriced pieces of dookie *and does not use the cargo room, towing capacity, or offroad capability* is a dumbass.
so anyone who buys an impreza AND NOT race, rally or go faster than the speed limit is a dumbass also?!?
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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True.

However, once an SUV DOES roll, the fatality rate is 40%

that... is... sad...

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by ldivinag
you'd be surprised... IIRC, one year when all this SUV flippin incidents, guess which VEHICLE was #1... a corvette...

from the NHTSA website:



while an SUV is more LIKELY to roll, since there are more passenger cars than SUVs, the numbers say that more rolls are of cars...


More cars roll over comapred to SUV's in sheer numbers, but when you compare that in relation to the percentage of vehicles on the road that are SUV's a SUV rollover's are much higher in that aspect. Also your data is way outdated. In the 2002 data rollovers involving a SUV that resulted in a fatality went up 14%.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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We really must be in Commifornia.

Who gives a shizz what someone else is driving. If you cant see around them...you are too close!

If they take the entire lane....so what its their lane!

If they fill the entire parking space....park somewhere else!

Its not the vehicle its the person driving it. I have a CDL and could drag a 40' er through places i see people in sedands freak about. I can parallel park it in one try....

We need to realize that each of us has our rights, but those rights do not include infringing upon the rights of others...If you are a safr driver it shouldnt matter what others do, you expect it and avoid it...(ok maybe the occastional ding or parking lot crunch is unavoidable, but that would happen no matter what they drive).

Im not asking for us to all get along, because that is a left-coast I'm owed something statement, but rather why dont we all just worry about ourselves and keep our noses out of other peoples business....

If you dont like SUV's - Dont get one....its that simple...

And for the person who said something about emmisions....I would love to compare my trucks emmisions to a WRX thats been all modded out......I go to UCKK every week and I smell more fuel and emmisions in the air there than I do at the Dunes or a 4x Jamboree.....
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by robb


If you dont like SUV's - Dont get one....its that simple...

gee robb, can it really be that simple?

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by robb
..........And for the person who said something about emmisions....I would love to compare my trucks emmisions to a WRX thats been all modded out......I go to UCKK every week and I smell more fuel and emmisions in the air there than I do at the Dunes or a 4x Jamboree.....
THAT IS SO TRUE! I would take that challenge too! Besides....you talk about the emissions of SUV's......ok fine....but what about that 1972 rusted out jaloppy cruising down the freeway that is SPEWING black smoke out the tailpipe like a friggin smoke screen? Or how about Semi Trucks...they are exempt from smog...why? because they are diesel....but I see them spewing enough black smoke into the air to compare to 20 SUV's, which brings me to another point....havent you ever driven past an industrial area and seen smoke stacks from buildings belching god knows what into the air. I mean seriously....even simply washing your car puts pollutants into the air/water/ground. Thats why you see signs painted on curbs next to storm drains "NO DUMPING, FLOWS TO BAY/RIVER", pollutants go into the water system, water evaporates mixes with air, condenses into droplets again and all of a sudden you have a nice corrosive acid rain. Now maybe I am wrong, but I am about 99.9% sure that SUVs are not the ONLY ones to blame for this, Especially when one hoopty honda can pollute worse than a brand new Excursion. Heck I would bet that my '95 Tahoe with 148,000 miles pollutes less than alot of cars out there, that is because I take care of it....it runs better now than it did when it was brand new, no joke....and doesnt even seep any oil what-so-ever

I dunno.....this is a topic that could be argued for years (and has been) going back and forth....the harsh reality is that just about anything that we do will induce some sort of pollution, so this is a problem that is collective of everyone on the planet.....and that includes everyone on this website too!

-T
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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I got rear ended on 17 last week by a guy in a 1999 Suburban. Because he has the right to drive what ever he wants, without training or qualification, he now has a scratched bumper and my car is 2 feet shorter than it was. So either it takes longer for a SUV to stop safely and they should be driven slower than cars capable of stopping at a normal rate, or someone takes longer than me to process information at an exceptable rate. Since I made the decision to buy a WRX and he made the discission to buy a Suburban, I will leave it up to the I-Club members to figure out who has the best mental agility.

The fact is that SUV's take more from all aspects of infrastructure.
They take more resources from the environment to build, the take more fuel to operate, they hinder pedestrian safety when parked, their increased weght breaks down roadways at a faster rate thus increasing our tax burden.

In ten years most people will realize that SUV's are just the late 90's version of the Baby Blue leasure suit.



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