Got Cited For CVC 21655.5(b)
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I have seen far too many accidents and had one of my father's friends loose his head (literally) from going at unsafe speeds.
Cyclists that ride the line around traffic **** me off to no end - I cannot tell you how many times I've switched lanes (after checking mirrors and blind spots) and almost struck some impatient rider who decided to go between lanes.
Plus my wife to be won't let me get a bike until I am older (like 50 or 60) for the same reasons (that and her biological father was an avid unsafe biker).
I mean my WRX entices me to go fast but I don't.
Cyclists that ride the line around traffic **** me off to no end - I cannot tell you how many times I've switched lanes (after checking mirrors and blind spots) and almost struck some impatient rider who decided to go between lanes.
Plus my wife to be won't let me get a bike until I am older (like 50 or 60) for the same reasons (that and her biological father was an avid unsafe biker).
I mean my WRX entices me to go fast but I don't.
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Will definietely show up on the record. The Record will then be reflected onto the insurance and will raise your rates. Yes it will stay for 3 years unless one of the following happen.
1. You go to traffic school and get a certificate of completion and turn it into the court (Make sure its not within 18 months of another ticket) then the DMV will "mask" the point and it will not be visable in your public driving record, therefore the insurance company won't see it. But if you went to traffic school already with 18 months and go again before that time period. The Public record will show the offense and the time you went to traffic school.
2. Fight it and Win! No traffic school or point. (ticket assassin is my recommendation) Its not what you know, its what you can prove.
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
1. You go to traffic school and get a certificate of completion and turn it into the court (Make sure its not within 18 months of another ticket) then the DMV will "mask" the point and it will not be visable in your public driving record, therefore the insurance company won't see it. But if you went to traffic school already with 18 months and go again before that time period. The Public record will show the offense and the time you went to traffic school.
2. Fight it and Win! No traffic school or point. (ticket assassin is my recommendation) Its not what you know, its what you can prove.
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
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My ability to fight this ticket is VERY limited - It wasn't like I was forced into the HOV lane - I admit that I was in it of my own volition.
I intend on going to court to plead Nolo Contendre and hopefully get a cut in the fine - I will ask the Commissioner if it will show up to my insurance company, that being the case I will take traffic school.
I intend on going to court to plead Nolo Contendre and hopefully get a cut in the fine - I will ask the Commissioner if it will show up to my insurance company, that being the case I will take traffic school.
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True, but if you exercise common sense, self-restraint and patience, you should do fine, along with extra caution. I'd actually be a little bored on a scooter.
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And at least with a motorcycle if you need to get out of a jam fast (ie: avoid an accident or having a crazy ex-gf try to run you off the road) you can jam.
With a scooter, the idea is cool and all - but I just don't like how it looks with a person sitting on it and put putting down the road.
I feel the same way about scooters on the freeway as I do Segways - no, thanks.
With a scooter, the idea is cool and all - but I just don't like how it looks with a person sitting on it and put putting down the road.
I feel the same way about scooters on the freeway as I do Segways - no, thanks.
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Yes R-Dub it is a moving violation. Yes it will go on your record if you don't do the class. On average 1 point on your record will increase your insurance by 20% for the 3 years that it will be on your record.
jasajin.. it's your responsibility to get the certificate of completion to the court by your due date. Don't blame "the people from the class" for losing your paperwork. Also, they don't lower the fine for traffic school. In fact you will pay an administration fee for choosing the class option, typically $25-$40, on top of the fine. And my guess that the fine for using the diamond lane without the minimum number of occupants is going to be somewhere around $300. Just a guess.
jasajin.. it's your responsibility to get the certificate of completion to the court by your due date. Don't blame "the people from the class" for losing your paperwork. Also, they don't lower the fine for traffic school. In fact you will pay an administration fee for choosing the class option, typically $25-$40, on top of the fine. And my guess that the fine for using the diamond lane without the minimum number of occupants is going to be somewhere around $300. Just a guess.
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Update:
A friend pointed out to me after seeing my citation that the officer neglected to put my age on the citation.
He put my birthdate and all other information on it - but left the age box blank.
He said that with an incomplete citation like that, if I were to fight it via mail I have a good chance of winning a dismissal (something to chord of 'if the officer wasn't observant enough to complete the citations, how could he be observant enough to see you in the HOV lane?')
I have heard this before and I have heard of people getting off for technical corrections such as this.
What are your guys's thoughts?
A friend pointed out to me after seeing my citation that the officer neglected to put my age on the citation.
He put my birthdate and all other information on it - but left the age box blank.
He said that with an incomplete citation like that, if I were to fight it via mail I have a good chance of winning a dismissal (something to chord of 'if the officer wasn't observant enough to complete the citations, how could he be observant enough to see you in the HOV lane?')
I have heard this before and I have heard of people getting off for technical corrections such as this.
What are your guys's thoughts?
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Update:
A friend pointed out to me after seeing my citation that the officer neglected to put my age on the citation.
He put my birthdate and all other information on it - but left the age box blank.
He said that with an incomplete citation like that, if I were to fight it via mail I have a good chance of winning a dismissal (something to chord of 'if the officer wasn't observant enough to complete the citations, how could he be observant enough to see you in the HOV lane?')
I have heard this before and I have heard of people getting off for technical corrections such as this.
What are your guys's thoughts?
A friend pointed out to me after seeing my citation that the officer neglected to put my age on the citation.
He put my birthdate and all other information on it - but left the age box blank.
He said that with an incomplete citation like that, if I were to fight it via mail I have a good chance of winning a dismissal (something to chord of 'if the officer wasn't observant enough to complete the citations, how could he be observant enough to see you in the HOV lane?')
I have heard this before and I have heard of people getting off for technical corrections such as this.
What are your guys's thoughts?
if the officer does submit their paperwork, you have two options... pay the fine and do traffic school, or you get a guaranteed new court trial.
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the advantage to "trial by written declaration" is that it creates more paperwork for the officer. if they do not submit their paperwork on time, it's a dismissal and your violation is thrown out.
if the officer does submit their paperwork, you have two options... pay the fine and do traffic school, or you get a guaranteed new court trial.
if the officer does submit their paperwork, you have two options... pay the fine and do traffic school, or you get a guaranteed new court trial.
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So I got my 'Courtesy Notice' today in the mail and on it proclaims "Request court appearance: Optional....Arraignment and Court Trial No other options are available to you and you are not eligible for a Trail by Declaration."
Is that even legal? Isn't there a law that states I can? Is Ticketassassin.com out of date? What gives?
Also: bail is set at $396.00, about as much as I was thinking it would be, but if I can't do a written trial I will just go to court and ask the judge for some leniency.
Is that even legal? Isn't there a law that states I can? Is Ticketassassin.com out of date? What gives?
Also: bail is set at $396.00, about as much as I was thinking it would be, but if I can't do a written trial I will just go to court and ask the judge for some leniency.