Good vs. Evil - For Steven (medicsti)
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 231
From: San Francisco, CA
Car Info: '03 yellow bugeye wagon
Token Toyota Mod
iTrader: (50)
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 52,306
From: Palo Alto, CA
Car Info: Something german
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,428
From: Bay Area/CPP
Car Info: 2005 WRX - Stage 2 and EQ Tuned!
Do you really believe that?
This is an extreme example, but if you had the opportunity to put a bullet in Hitlers head and end the murdering of Jews, gays, gypsies, political dissidents etc... Would you perceive yourself committing an evil act?
It is all in the context of why the act is committed. Dems would say Capital Punishment is evil, while Repubs say it is "just" and good.
Repubs say abortion is evil. Dems say right to choice.
This is an extreme example, but if you had the opportunity to put a bullet in Hitlers head and end the murdering of Jews, gays, gypsies, political dissidents etc... Would you perceive yourself committing an evil act?
It is all in the context of why the act is committed. Dems would say Capital Punishment is evil, while Repubs say it is "just" and good.
Repubs say abortion is evil. Dems say right to choice.
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,428
From: Bay Area/CPP
Car Info: 2005 WRX - Stage 2 and EQ Tuned!
Using light and dark is a bad example.
Light comes in a huge spectrum, of which visible light (aka 'not dark' to our eyes) makes up only a very small portion of that spectrum.
While a room can be completely dark to us, there is still light being emitted/bounced around, just not in a wavelength we are able to perceive with our sense of sight.
When you flip on a light bulb (that emits human-visible light), the 'darkness' or non-human-visible light doesn't 'go away', but is 'masked' by our perception of the visible spectrum.
You cannot have a room that is completely absent of any wavelength of light simply because photons (of the right wavelength) can penetrate any known substance in the universe, with the possible exception of a) dark matter or b) a black hole. Since you cannot make a room out of one (the black hole) and the other is a substance we have almost zero knowledge of (except that it exists), we have to assume that no matter where you are, or what state of visibility you perceive, there is always light present around you.
Light comes in a huge spectrum, of which visible light (aka 'not dark' to our eyes) makes up only a very small portion of that spectrum.
While a room can be completely dark to us, there is still light being emitted/bounced around, just not in a wavelength we are able to perceive with our sense of sight.
When you flip on a light bulb (that emits human-visible light), the 'darkness' or non-human-visible light doesn't 'go away', but is 'masked' by our perception of the visible spectrum.
You cannot have a room that is completely absent of any wavelength of light simply because photons (of the right wavelength) can penetrate any known substance in the universe, with the possible exception of a) dark matter or b) a black hole. Since you cannot make a room out of one (the black hole) and the other is a substance we have almost zero knowledge of (except that it exists), we have to assume that no matter where you are, or what state of visibility you perceive, there is always light present around you.
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 231
From: San Francisco, CA
Car Info: '03 yellow bugeye wagon
Registered User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,686
From: I was up above it, now I'm down in it
Car Info: New Government Motors SUV!
Do you really believe that?
This is an extreme example, but if you had the opportunity to put a bullet in Hitlers head and end the murdering of Jews, gays, gypsies, political dissidents etc... Would you perceive yourself committing an evil act?
It is all in the context of why the act is committed. Dems would say Capital Punishment is evil, while Repubs say it is "just" and good.
Repubs say abortion is evil. Dems say right to choice.
This is an extreme example, but if you had the opportunity to put a bullet in Hitlers head and end the murdering of Jews, gays, gypsies, political dissidents etc... Would you perceive yourself committing an evil act?
It is all in the context of why the act is committed. Dems would say Capital Punishment is evil, while Repubs say it is "just" and good.
Repubs say abortion is evil. Dems say right to choice.
That doesn't mean it's not forgivable either. It just means that the act is inherently wrong and shouldn't be ignored just because there's a bigger picture involved.
(ie Just because there is daylight doesn't mean that the night never happened.)
Last edited by Superglue WRX; May 1, 2009 at 08:47 AM.
iClub Silver Vendor
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,494
From: Participating in some Anarchy!
Car Info: 2005 LGT wagon
Yes.
Thank you.
Evil is evil, it doesn't matter who the individual being harmed is or who might benefit from the outcome. It's still evil by definition and it can't be rationalized away.
That doesn't mean it's not forgivable either. It just means that the act is inherently wrong and should be ignored just because there's a bigger picture involved.
(ie Just because there is daylight doesn't mean that the night never happened.)
That doesn't mean it's not forgivable either. It just means that the act is inherently wrong and should be ignored just because there's a bigger picture involved.
(ie Just because there is daylight doesn't mean that the night never happened.)
Thank you.
VIP Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,632
From: Yokosuka, Japan
Car Info: 2008 EVO X/1991 Nissan Skyline GT-R32
good vs evil
I am protecting my family from an attacker and shoot and kill him. I am good and a hero to my family.
I am the attacker's dad and just had my son killed. The killer is bad and evil.
2 sides to every story
I am protecting my family from an attacker and shoot and kill him. I am good and a hero to my family.
I am the attacker's dad and just had my son killed. The killer is bad and evil.
2 sides to every story