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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Good vs. Evil - For Steven (medicsti)

We got into the discussion of good vs. evil in another thread. I would like to discuss this.

Here is a quote:

"Good and evil are different, as their names imply. But, in my own humble opinion, they are both of them aspects of my Lord. He is present in the one, absent in the other, and the difference between presence and absence is great, as great as my feeble mind can grasp. Yet absence implies presence, absence is not non-existence, and we are therefor entitled to repeat, 'Come, come, come, come.'" - A Passage to India, ch. 19

To illustrate the point.

When you flip a light switch off in a light room and there is dark, does the light "not-exist"? Something does not have to be A or B(not A). It is possible that there is light, but our eyes cannot see that light. Would that be called "darkness" or "lack of light"?

Is it possible to have neutral actions? Meaning actions that are neither good or evil.Or is evil implied by acts that are not "full of good"?

Is someone capable of understanding a different good or evil than your own?

Is there an absolute good or absolute evil? How can that be determined?

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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or you could have just PM'd him
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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or you could have just PM'd him
Could have. But I want to let others in on the discussion as well.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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lol I have a Major Exam tomorrow in my medic class so I'll have to respond to this when my brain isn't fried and my future isn't in jeopardy... i.e. tomorrow.

Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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lol I have a Major Exam tomorrow in my medic class so I'll have to respond to this when my brain isn't fried and my future isn't in jeopardy... i.e. tomorrow.

No worries. I just wanted to throw this out there.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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scientifically darkness is the absence of light. kinda like how coldness is the absence of heat.
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rescuer
or you could have just PM'd him
Actually, I'm glad he posted this publicly. It's an interesting topic that I'm sure other i-Clubbers would be interested in as well.
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Chuck norris decides good and evil, then kills it all
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
Actually, I'm glad he posted this publicly. It's an interesting topic that I'm sure other i-Clubbers would be interested in as well.
I would like to know why red bean paste treat dude is angry and eating himself.
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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it's anpan man, he's tasty.

wasn't there an old USA tv series called good vs evil?
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by soggynoodles
I would like to know why red bean paste treat dude is angry and eating himself.
Because he's delicious!!!! He even says so, "Me, I'm delicious!!!!! BAAAAM!"
And it's not so much angry, it's more like... excited (?), which is better than the look of abject agony that he sometimes displays a la the attached image
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
Because he's delicious!!!! He even says so, "Me, I'm delicious!!!!! BAAAAM!"
And it's not so much angry, it's more like... excited (?), which is better than the look of abject agony that he sometimes displays a la the attached image
haha ahh okay. that all makes sense now.
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Using light and dark is a bad example.

Light comes in a huge spectrum, of which visible light (aka 'not dark' to our eyes) makes up only a very small portion of that spectrum.

While a room can be completely dark to us, there is still light being emitted/bounced around, just not in a wavelength we are able to perceive with our sense of sight.

When you flip on a light bulb (that emits human-visible light), the 'darkness' or non-human-visible light doesn't 'go away', but is 'masked' by our perception of the visible spectrum.

You cannot have a room that is completely absent of any wavelength of light simply because photons (of the right wavelength) can penetrate any known substance in the universe, with the possible exception of a) dark matter or b) a black hole. Since you cannot make a room out of one (the black hole) and the other is a substance we have almost zero knowledge of (except that it exists), we have to assume that no matter where you are, or what state of visibility you perceive, there is always light present around you.

Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Generic
Using light and dark is a bad example.

Light comes in a huge spectrum, of which visible light (aka 'not dark' to our eyes) makes up only a very small portion of that spectrum.

While a room can be completely dark to us, there is still light being emitted/bounced around, just not in a wavelength we are able to perceive with our sense of sight.

When you flip on a light bulb (that emits human-visible light), the 'darkness' or non-human-visible light doesn't 'go away', but is 'masked' by our perception of the visible spectrum.

You cannot have a room that is completely absent of any wavelength of light simply because photons (of the right wavelength) can penetrate any known substance in the universe, with the possible exception of a) dark matter or b) a black hole. Since you cannot make a room out of one (the black hole) and the other is a substance we have almost zero knowledge of (except that it exists), we have to assume that no matter where you are, or what state of visibility you perceive, there is always light present around you.




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