good buffer out there?

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Ok, stupid questions. Does using a buffer actually take off paint or how does it remove swirls?

Also, the polishes that say they remove minor scratches. How? Do they remove a little paint, or simply fill the hole or what?

Thnx and sry for the stupid questions
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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When you apply wax or paint sealant to a vehicle, you want to "dab" an applicator (cloth-covered foam bar) or rag, that is wet with the wax or sealant, onto the paint. You apply the applicator/rag directly down onto the paint, with no pressure; not in "straight lines" or in circular motions, and not with any pressure. This is where you are creating swirl marks, because of your application method.

After you've covered all painted surfaces, and the wax/sealant has dried, you use a soft cotton diaper/terry cloth or microfiber towel to lightly rub-off the wax. If you apply pressure at this stage, you will cause swirl marks as well.

Originally Posted by sjice
i polish and wax my car by hand.. but i ALWAYS end up having swirl marks.. and i do all what people say.. wax in lines not circles.. hmm.. maybe i jus dont have the touch..
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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My shop charges $150 for a full exterior detail on a car (more for larger vehicles and finishes requiring extra attention), and that includes a wash and vacuum, clay-bar, machine buffing and polishing, and then apply a high-quality polymer paint sealant to protect your finish.

Our shop does phenomenal work, however, I'd recommend that you have a fellow i-Club member such as Freddie (1WRX2NV) detail your vehicle. Freddie also paints cars as well, and is very knowledgeable.

David

Originally Posted by sjice
how much does it cost for a full out detail?
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Buffing/Rubbing/Polishing/Cleaning compounds generally work in the same way:

They come in varying composition depending on how scratched the surface is, and they polish the scratches out of the clear-coat layer, which is on top of the actual colored "paint".

You can only buff and wet-sand vehicles so far:

Once the clear coat is thin, you cannot buff or sand it any further without burning the paint, or completely removing the clear-coat layer.

Originally Posted by kravdra
Ok, stupid questions. Does using a buffer actually take off paint or how does it remove swirls?

Also, the polishes that say they remove minor scratches. How? Do they remove a little paint, or simply fill the hole or what?

Thnx and sry for the stupid questions
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