I would respectfully disagree with you. The '02-'07 Impreza was much much uglier IMHO.

I would hardly call Subaru the "innovator of rally". While they certainly did some innovative things, most of the other manufacturers were right there doing it with them. Audi on the other hand...




-Brian

 

Sporty rear-wheel drive cars are "come and go"?

 

Nah, the older cars are the best-period. Specifically 06 STiI was refering to Subaru as being only known & popular after getting into rally, before that it was Subawho? It's is soul man & the newer ones stray further & further away. They were very innovated, had to be, with all those rally/WRC championships they won. We may never see that era for Subaru ever again, so get your 03-07 STi while you still can!

 

Nah, i'm just talking about car companies who usually don't or never make sporty rwd vehicles, they try to break into that niche brand, only to run for a few years max. Just ask Hyundai about that, their Genesis flopped man. They tried sooo hard to appeal to us tuner crowd with a rwd turbo coupe, but you can't fool us with only 200 hp, c'mon with ****ing boost, what a joke! A Civic Si has that much power & it's only NA man! So you see, if specific car manufacturers don't regularly produce rwd, then it'll just be a fad at that particular time, i don't see Subaru making this for too long, lacking awd & turbo, their core technologies, oh & four doors-lol.

 

I think you're forgetting that the consumer versions of the Velostar and Fiesta are far less powerful and FWD. People looking for AWD won't be looking at those two cars. As it's already been said, Subaru is not the innovator of rally. Rally has been around for a long time.

So a Lotus Elise is not a sports car? A sports car needs to be quick in the turns. You're forgetting that you don't need a lot of power if you have a light weight car.

What do you mean by a real enthusiast? Do you mean a car enthusiast? In that case, I consider myself an enthusiast and applaud Subaru and Toyota for doing something different and possibly amazing.

You're right about Subaru losing some of their uniqueness, but they're a company that wants to appeal to more people. Unfortunately that generally means making things more mainstream and losing some of that uniqueness.

 

O boy....

 

Not a bad point. Except for the coupe part: the GC8 coupe was one for the ages, and I'd love to see something like that come back!

 

after looking at the pictures, looks like a tc with the back

 

More rumors from Autoblog...

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/01/s...-turbocharged/

-Brian

 

^ That's pretty interesting. If it's not turbocharged, the engine is going to need a lot of changes. I can see the STI version having larger brakes and rotors, wider tires, a more aggressive suspension setup, and maybe even being lighter than the normal model.

 

All I'm hoping for is that it'll be reminiscent of the old Impreza 2.5RS or perhaps the Subaru Alcyone/XT/Vortex.

If Subaru makes this an AWD entry-level sporty car, I will be very very happy.

Making it turbocharged will only cannibalize WRX and STI sales.

Making it RWD will anger fans.

To me, AWD + naturally-aspirated FB engine making decent power and torque = win for this car if it does happen.

EDIT: Oh, but it better damn well have a proper manual transmission!

 

 

Um no.

RWD will not anger fans, especially in a lower power car. Don't need the weight.

I'll tell you right now buddy, there is NO AWD, NOT HAPPENING. Read about subarus concept that was at the autoshow, a body-less display of the drivetrain, and speil on their specially built blah blah for RWD.

Subaru designed new drivetrain parts to make this rwd, they will not be making an awd.


"We’re sure if Subaru’s version of the car will be sold in the United States, which has a little upset. Subaru expects a longer-than-aveage lifecycle for the model and it plans on keeping things fresh with a possible STI version shortly after launch, said Toshio Masuda, a Subaru senior general manager of product planning.
Subaru’s STI department is known for beefing up a vehicles performance with the use of turbocharging, performance tires, powerful brakes and a sport-tuned suspension. However, officials say that going turbo for the rear-wheel-drive sports car is doubtful since the original plan calls for keeping the boxer engine naturally aspirated"

 

i cant wait to start working on these

 

Why do we have 2 separate FT-86/FR-S threads in the BAIC? Merge pls?