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Car Info: 1995 Subaru Impreza 1.8 L
LMAO @ Andre!!!
As for the ABS, this is a very limited production run, and obviously aimed at racing teams and people who dont care about air conditioning let alone ABS... Personally, i'd get rid of my ABS if I could easily. Ive had non-abs cars in the past and know how to operate it properly in any weather or road condition, and I find ABS annoying most of the time and rarely useful... Then again, average joe needs his ABS cause he hath no skilleth!
As for the ABS, this is a very limited production run, and obviously aimed at racing teams and people who dont care about air conditioning let alone ABS... Personally, i'd get rid of my ABS if I could easily. Ive had non-abs cars in the past and know how to operate it properly in any weather or road condition, and I find ABS annoying most of the time and rarely useful... Then again, average joe needs his ABS cause he hath no skilleth!
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From: Bizerkeley
Car Info: MBP 02 WRX wagon
Look for an announcement from SCCA in the next few weeks.
I think I know what this car is made for, not officially- but I bet it isn't targeted to people that need ABS.
don't be suprised if a full roll cage is on the options list .....
I think I know what this car is made for, not officially- but I bet it isn't targeted to people that need ABS.
don't be suprised if a full roll cage is on the options list .....
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Originally posted by brucelee
I'm pretty sure our STi has Spec C suspension (Minus smaller front sway bar, and a few other tiny bits).
But as far as the suspension geometry goes, Spec C.
I'm pretty sure our STi has Spec C suspension (Minus smaller front sway bar, and a few other tiny bits).
But as far as the suspension geometry goes, Spec C.
We have had a couple of folks upgrade the suspenion with Spec C springs also Spec C shocks etc ride a lot stiffer than our STI's units do.
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146lbs is not a bad saving although not sure if it will suit the fairys over here in the US. I can see it now...
"hold on I can't drive this thing if the windows have to be wound manually"
"I brought a sports car it's supposed to know how to brake for me, what do you mean it's not got ABS how the f**k does it stop then"
"No vanity mirror? how is my boyfriend Dave going to put his make up on then in the morning?"
Not sure they will sell to many of them...
Mike
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"hold on I can't drive this thing if the windows have to be wound manually"
"I brought a sports car it's supposed to know how to brake for me, what do you mean it's not got ABS how the f**k does it stop then"
"No vanity mirror? how is my boyfriend Dave going to put his make up on then in the morning?"
Not sure they will sell to many of them...
Mike
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www.mpjperformance.com
www.gb-motorsports.com
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It's a fact that cars w/ ABS takes less distance to stop than similar cars w/o ABS. No matter the skill level of the driver, the whole point of a good braking system is to stop the car using the shortest amount of distance and maximum control. Why not ad the 15lbs. for an ABS system when it will help any driver (even expert drivers) stop and control the cars?
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I want teh Spec C front subframe & all dat isht!
Originally posted by MPJ Performance
Nope, not from the ones we have been pulling out of cars recently anyway.
We have had a couple of folks upgrade the suspenion with Spec C springs also Spec C shocks etc ride a lot stiffer than our STI's units do.
Nope, not from the ones we have been pulling out of cars recently anyway.
We have had a couple of folks upgrade the suspenion with Spec C springs also Spec C shocks etc ride a lot stiffer than our STI's units do.
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Originally posted by redrex
It's a fact that cars w/ ABS takes less distance to stop than similar cars w/o ABS. No matter the skill level of the driver, the whole point of a good braking system is to stop the car using the shortest amount of distance and maximum control. Why not ad the 15lbs. for an ABS system when it will help any driver (even expert drivers) stop and control the cars?
It's a fact that cars w/ ABS takes less distance to stop than similar cars w/o ABS. No matter the skill level of the driver, the whole point of a good braking system is to stop the car using the shortest amount of distance and maximum control. Why not ad the 15lbs. for an ABS system when it will help any driver (even expert drivers) stop and control the cars?
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true dat..
hey has anybody ever wondered why Subaru didn't use Legacy-style rear suspension (i.e. multilink w/A-arms) on teh New Age Imprezas?
I hate friggin' semi-trailing arms...
hey has anybody ever wondered why Subaru didn't use Legacy-style rear suspension (i.e. multilink w/A-arms) on teh New Age Imprezas?
I hate friggin' semi-trailing arms...
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Originally posted by dahveed
hey has anybody ever wondered why Subaru didn't use Legacy-style rear suspension (i.e. multilink w/A-arms) on teh New Age Imprezas?
I hate friggin' semi-trailing arms...
Probably the cost. If they can fit the suspension underneath the car, I don't see any other possible reason. If it came with a solid axle like Camaros and Mustangs (non-Cobra), I wouldn't even have considered buying one.
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hey has anybody ever wondered why Subaru didn't use Legacy-style rear suspension (i.e. multilink w/A-arms) on teh New Age Imprezas?
I hate friggin' semi-trailing arms...
Probably the cost. If they can fit the suspension underneath the car, I don't see any other possible reason. If it came with a solid axle like Camaros and Mustangs (non-Cobra), I wouldn't even have considered buying one.
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0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush
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Originally posted by redrex
It's a fact that cars w/ ABS takes less distance to stop than similar cars w/o ABS. No matter the skill level of the driver, the whole point of a good braking system is to stop the car using the shortest amount of distance and maximum control. Why not ad the 15lbs. for an ABS system when it will help any driver (even expert drivers) stop and control the cars?
It's a fact that cars w/ ABS takes less distance to stop than similar cars w/o ABS. No matter the skill level of the driver, the whole point of a good braking system is to stop the car using the shortest amount of distance and maximum control. Why not ad the 15lbs. for an ABS system when it will help any driver (even expert drivers) stop and control the cars?
I would admit that 99% of the population will brake easier and better with ABS but in search for extreme performance where weight is a big factor and driver error is not equated the ABS would be on my list to go.
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ABS almost killed me up on Mt. Hammy after the meet. I am going to be buying an evo here pretty soon, but the Spec C is not in it for me. I want a sunroof, and AC.
If you are a serious, fast, and skilled driver, you don't want ABS...
Oh yeah...one last thing...
EVOs RULE!!!
If you are a serious, fast, and skilled driver, you don't want ABS...
Oh yeah...one last thing...
EVOs RULE!!!


