Hey whats up bay area I-clubbers? I have an evo question Im curious of. Im wondering why the 03-05 evo's with an ecu tec mod gained only around 20 fly wheel hp while the 06 evo gained almost 100 fly wheel hp with the same engine.

Thanks

 

From Edmunds;

-Mike-

 

100 fly wheel hp with a tune? damn.

 

Yea from something like 287 to 385ish! =/ Our 06 STI's are getting smoked!

 

Thats cus their turbo's are so damn big, and they are fmic :/

 

But were 2.5 liters =/

I'm in the process of getting an STI, and rulled evo's out of the question being theres trannys suck but after finding out this news Imma have to rule 06 evo's inmy search.

 

With bigger hp #'s with each new model year, how are the rest of us suppose to keep up?

Oh yeah....Continue modding

 

hahaha are u sure about that man,

i have a friends with evo 9 mr

with full exhaust
boost controller
and tuned at EIP
his pushing 295 on mustang dyno on 91 pump
on 100 octane his pushing 325 on mustang dyno

i have 06 sti with road tune with almost the same mods
i jus have stock ported coated headers by crucial

with my 91 map i can beat my friends evo 9 mr on 91 map from a roll 60 - 130
with my 100 octane map and his on his 100 octane map im neck and neck from aroll 60 - 130...


so i dont now about counting out the sti
many people doubt the sti agaisnt evo 9
but i think rite now its possible for sti to hit low 12s on stock turbo with minimal mods oh yea my car runs 12.4 at infineon with some shifting mistake
i think my car can run 12.2 on right weather


so yea have faith on STi

 

1 modded evo 9 MR & 1 modded STI does not count for a bunch of STI's getting beat by evo's or vice versa .. both cars are tough

 

the evo9's are responding really well to mods and theyve been changing little by little every year.also comparing horsepower numbers dont mean nothing,its the power under the curve and the driver where it really counts

as for the bad clutches those are for people who thinks dropping high rpm laung aint gonna do nothing on the clutch.its a wear and tear part so the more you abuse it the sooner its gonna bail out on you as with other cars.so far i have put 54k on my stock clutch with plenty of autox and maybe a couple of launches and its barely showing some slippage now.

 

100 hp to the fly is a bit high, at least on 91 it is

There are a few reasons the IXS with just a MBC, TBE, and tune are putting down similr or higher numbers than the VIIIs with full bolt ons and cams

1. MIVEC. Not only does this help with low end power, but also helps by allowing more boost without knock by adjusting timing
2. Imporove cooling passages (again, more boost, less knock)
3. Rivised turbo (more over all power)

The 06 and 05 have the same 10.5 hotside. The 03-04 had a smaller hotside. Evos have basically gone up in power with each year (although a camm'd 05 is the closest in power to a IX with a TBE)

As for the IX vs STi thing, the IXs are nothing to be messed around with. The STis are great down low but really run out of breath past 5k due to the pea-shooter vf39, the evos are now great down low AND hold boost better, so top end is wicked

Some stock IXs are putting down 240+whp at gruppe-S, some stock STis only put down 215-220whp at gruppe-s. So either the evo IXs are under-rated, or the STis are over-rated. In this case, I think its a bit of both

THe IX on a stock turbo with a good driver/tune will pwn pretty much any stock turbo STi with similar mods/driver

Some guys with IXs are into the high 11s and trapping 114+ on the stock turbo with just bolt ons.

I think the fastest stock turbo STi is around 12.2 or so. And yes, the stock evo FMIC supports more power than the stock sti TMIC (some guys are 400whp+ on it)

This is one of the reasons I swtiched from the STi to the evo IX. I basically wanted a 300whp/low 12 second car. That can be done with about $1000 in mods with an evo IX, on pump gas

I was at about $2000 or so with the STi and needed another $1000 (headers, meth, re-tune). I would have needed a turbo upgrade to do it on pump. If I run meth on the IX, I expect to see 330-340whp. Some of the crazy guys are running 30psi+ on stock turbo evos with meth/race gas

 

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hey did u get ur car tune yet?


yea man i higly doubt an evo 9 with 1000 bucks can go to low 12s
if the parts are brand new, if its used parts yes and same for STi they can hit low 12s with 1000 bucks if the money is spend rite


but with evo 9 with full catless exhaust , boost controller and tune on 91 hitting low 12s
thats kinda skiptical man .
even with a good driver

i think your doubting the sti too much there

well thats why you traded ur suby for evo haha

 

Don't doubt it!

Buschur/Warrtalon EVO IX Stage 1 - $1270
- Buschur Racing Turboback Exhaust with your choice of Hi-Flow Cat or Test Pipe and choice muffler (quite or loud)
- Forge UNOS MBC
- Autometer -30 - +30 Boost Gauge + single pillar pod
- Buschur IX Stg1 Flash (different from the VIII flash)

This will be good for 330whp on a Dynojet with 93oct.

Basically the same as a Cobb Stage 2 only with like 200% better results. This is why the Evos have a rep for better bang for the buck.

The 4G63 has been around for something like 15 years, the Evo's turbo is much larger and more advanced than the VF39, the turbo is very close to the exhaust manifold (quick spooling). Not to mention that it's an iron block closed deck with forged internals (can handle gobbs of power). If I had any faith in Mitsubishi, it would almost certainly be my next car.

The STI is no slouch by any means, but can't compete price-wise for a modded Evo. Then for some reason, some people make the Evo a bench mark for how much mods cost. Then people start saying "Why is the STI so expensive to mod?". It's not, the Evo is just very cheap to mod.

 

but thats 330whp on dyno jet which is like 280whp on mustang dyno if not lower lil bit lower than 280whp

and i can garantee you 280whp mustang dyno on stock weight evo will not hit low 12s

thats y i dont see spending 1000 bucks getting to low 12s
unless the damn parts are used or jus reallly damn cheap

and jus to let you i know couple of tuners and alot of evo owners that actually mod and drive it to the track and believe me 330whp dynojet will not get you to low 12s unless its hella light wieght

and yes the 4g63 motor has been around for a long time... well if thats the case how come the the fastest evo only do high 8?
and the fastest usdm sti do low 9s, see i admit that evo is lil cheaper to mod cuz theres many parts available talk about cheap , but potential wise its the same thing as sti,

and there no really such thing as potential
any car can be fast as long as you have the money
the more MONEY YOU HAVE THE MORE POTENTIAL
so MONEY = POTENTIAL

 

get a used srt-4 ftw