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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Model: 2003 WRX Sedan
Mods: Catless Helix up and down pipe, HKS turboback exhaust

I just had my car tuned by Ed from EQ Tuning, and all i have to say is WOW. Ed smoothed out my ride, increase the overall hp and torque, and simply made the car pull way harder and smoother than before. I'm pretty happy with the numbers, but i can't wait to slap on a new turbo, tmic, and a few other goodies for Ed to tune.

For the graph below, one is for a run that produced the most hp, and one is for a run that produced the most torque...my numbers should be the average between the two graphs.

For those looking to get a tune, defintely give Ed from EQTUNING.COM a call. From what I experienced, Ed is very patient, thorough, and extremely detailed when it comes to tuning. His meticulous work can definitely be seen from his graphs, and easily felt when driving home in a newly tuned car...thanks again Ed!
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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I also thinking of having my AP stage 2 push a little further. I have a few questions:

1. What's the year of your car?
2. Is this a road tune or dyno?
3. If it was a road tune, how long did it take to complete the tuning?
3. What type of EM was this done to?

Those are nice numbers!
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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I also thinking of having my AP stage 2 push a little further. I have a few questions:

1. What's the year of your car?
2. Is this a road tune or dyno?
3. If it was a road tune, how long did it take to complete the tuning?
3. What type of EM was this done to?

Those are nice numbers!
Hi,

1. 2003
2. road tune
3. it took about 2-3 hours
4. don't know what "EM" is...engine management?
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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I'm guessing he didn't tune it on a wideband 02 since it was a road dyno tune?
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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He usually does, actually. he did on mine - used an LM1.
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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AJ,

Thanks for the nice review. Your car was deffinately "unique" and required a good deal more work than usual. But once we got everything dialed in, it ended up making more power than any other UP/TBE WRX I've tuned, so it was all worth it in the end.

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Originally Posted by Lurk
I'm guessing he didn't tune it on a wideband 02 since it was a road dyno tune?

I always use a freshly calibrated LM-1 wideband for all of my road tuning.

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by t-rex grrr
Hi,

1. 2003
2. road tune
3. it took about 2-3 hours
4. don't know what "EM" is...engine management?

4. EM is engine management as you guessed. This car was tuned using Cobb AP and ProTuner.

Thanks
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Hey, thanks for answering my questions. Just have to hear it from the guy this job was done to. Have fun with your new power!
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
Your car was deffinately "unique" and required a good deal more work than usual.
haha.. was it as 'unique' as mine?

I'm thinking 'unique' is Ed's code for 'a real pain in the ***'


The great thing about Ed is doesn't settle for good enough. Nice curves
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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How much was the tune?
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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how accurate is the "road tune" compared to a dyno tune, as i've seen many "road tuned" cars on a stock turbo hitting about the same amount of torque as a vf34 on a dyno...
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AzN121184
how accurate is the "road tune" compared to a dyno tune, as i've seen many "road tuned" cars on a stock turbo hitting about the same amount of torque as a vf34 on a dyno...
Every dyno is different anyway. The numbers are really only good as an estimate or for comparing before and after on the same dyno. Also, Ed seems to be pretty good at extracting torque out of the car. I'd rather have more torque than HP, but some people want the big HP number.
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Racenut
Every dyno is different anyway.
yeah i know, and it seems that most people that get tuned on a dyno, do it on a mustang dyno, so i would like to know roughly in how many % the difference is between the road dyno, and the mustang dyno.



Originally Posted by Racenut
The numbers are really only good as an estimate or for comparing before and after on the same dyno. Also, Ed seems to be pretty good at extracting torque out of the car. I'd rather have more torque than HP, but some people want the big HP number.
I'm in no way trying to bash EQ tuning at all, i would just like to know what the difference is. Just like the difference between a dynojet vs a mustang dyno sort of thing.
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AzN121184
how accurate is the "road tune" compared to a dyno tune, as i've seen many "road tuned" cars on a stock turbo hitting about the same amount of torque as a vf34 on a dyno...
The road dyno reads very similar to the mustang dynos in the area given similar conditions. I have, however, found that when using the standard configurations on the mustang dyno, the dyno doesn't create enough load in the low-mid range to simulate a real-world pull on flat ground. This results in slower spoolup and lower torque numbers. By playing with the weight/drag configuration on the Mustang, its possible to get a more realistic load curve. So depending on the dyno operator, a mustang dyno may read a bit less torque than my road dyno, but the top end numbers shouldn't vary much.

As far as vf34 cars making similar torque to some of the UP/TBE cars, that's actually not that far off. With the larger turbo running on pump gas, its very difficult to get a lot of torque. Depending on setup, VF series 2.0 cars on pump gas have made from 220ft-lbs to 250ft-lbs on my road dyno. So as you can see, even some of the VF3x cars I've tuned and measured on my road dyno actually make similar peak torque numbers to a stock turbo car. They always make significantly more top end, however, because the turbo can hold that torque through much more of the power band.

In the end every dyno is a bit different in the way it applied load and measures power. The Road Dyno software uses sound physics to calculate acceleration, torque, and whp when used on flat ground with the propper weight, drag, and gearing info. So in ideal conditions, I would say that the road dyno comes very close to ACTUAL power output. From working with the Mustang Dyno, I believe that if the configuration was good enough to create a very realistic load curve, it should also measure power output very accurately. The problem is that nothing is ever ideal. I don't have the ability to weigh and find the exact aerodynamic properties for each car I road dyno just as most dyno operators don't have the ability to configure the dyno to produce a load curve that's exactly what the car would see on an actual road for each car they dyno. So in the end, all of these numbers are just estimates with what most consider to be an acceptable margin of error. They give you a good idea of what the car is actually making, but its never an EXACT measurement.

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