End of the World: Postponed to Spring '09

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole
Others have wondered about the basic assumptions of the quantum gravity program, and whether there is really a compelling case to believe in Hawking radiation[10]. It is only these quantum assumptions which lead to the crisis at the Planck mass: in classical general relativity, a black hole could in principle be arbitrarily small, once created. Accordingly, it remains a possibility that a stable micro black hole could be created at the LHC, or that they are created in nature by high-energy impacts, only to zip through earth at nearly the speed of light[11]. Some research speculates that the chances of these tiny black holes devouring the earth are absurdly implausible [2].
Originally Posted by http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3381
We also comment on relevant lifetimes for astronomical objects that capture primordial black holes. In short, this study finds no basis for concerns that TeV-scale black holes from the LHC could pose a risk to Earth on time scales shorter than the Earth's natural lifetime. Indeed, conservative arguments based on detailed calculations and the best-available scientific knowledge, including solid astronomical data, conclude, from multiple perspectives, that there is no risk of any significance whatsoever from such black holes.
Sorry guys, doesn't look like the world will be ending anytime soon due to the LHC producing a black hole that will devour the Earth.

Nuclear War on the other hand......much more plausible.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GotBoost?
Sorry guys, doesn't look like the world will be ending anytime soon due to the LHC producing a black hole that will devour the Earth.

Nuclear War on the other hand......much more plausible.
YOU FOOL!!!!!

dont be bamboozled by thier scientic talk

wear your foil hat so you are subject to thier brain wave changer
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GotBoost?
Sorry guys, doesn't look like the world will be ending anytime soon due to the LHC producing a black hole that will devour the Earth.

Nuclear War on the other hand......much more plausible.
YOU FOOL!!!!!

dont be bamboozled by thier scientic talk

wear your foil hat so you are subject to thier brain wave changer
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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I wonder if we could get GST and LIC to go to Europe to tune that thing and add some turbos to it, you know, speed up the process... What do scientists know about turbo or speeding things up anyway?
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
YOU FOOL!!!!!

dont be bamboozled by thier scientic talk

wear your foil hat so you are subject to thier brain wave changer

LOL, double post


P.S. Don't worry, I still have my tinfoil hat ready at a moments notice if things go wrong.
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Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole
Others have wondered about the basic assumptions of the quantum gravity program, and whether there is really a compelling case to believe in Hawking radiation[10]. It is only these quantum assumptions which lead to the crisis at the Planck mass: in classical general relativity, a black hole could in principle be arbitrarily small, once created. Accordingly, it remains a possibility that a stable micro black hole could be created at the LHC, or that they are created in nature by high-energy impacts, only to zip through earth at nearly the speed of light[11]. Some research speculates that the chances of these tiny black holes devouring the earth are absurdly implausible [2].


Originally Posted by http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3381
We also comment on relevant lifetimes for astronomical objects that capture primordial black holes. In short, this study finds no basis for concerns that TeV-scale black holes from the LHC could pose a risk to Earth on time scales shorter than the Earth's natural lifetime. Indeed, conservative arguments based on detailed calculations and the best-available scientific knowledge, including solid astronomical data, conclude, from multiple perspectives, that there is no risk of any significance whatsoever from such black holes.
TEHY DONT KNOW THAT. That is the whole (no pun intended) ****ing point They dont know if that would or wouldnt cause a black hole that woudl do that. They are just sayiong no to keep people from freaking out. Just like the people that say it cant happen, there are people saying it is absurdly plausible. They arent even that sure on how a black hole works. how can they say that having it devour the earth is impossible.

https://www.i-club.com/forums/random-thoughts-off-topic-17/recreating-big-bang-how-about-no-191107/

Further more these scientist that say it could happen gave it a 1 in 50,000,000 chance that could happen.

To win the mega millions lottery there is a 1 in 175,711,536 chanc eof that and people do win the lottery.

And further more. they dont have to admit there will be a black hole because if one was created and continuously got bigger. we wouldnt even know it happend.

There are some people really upset by this. they will probably blow it up way before it ever creates a black hole.
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Oh, speaking of the end of the world, check out this flash animation presentation... It's VERY unnerving and really makes you think.

Check it out:


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end
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TEHY DONT KNOW THAT. That is the whole (no pun intended) ****ing point They dont know if that would or wouldnt cause a black hole that woudl do that. They are just sayiong no to keep people from freaking out. Just like the people that say it cant happen, there are people saying it is absurdly plausible. They arent even that sure on how a black hole works. how can they say that having it devour the earth is impossible.

https://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191107

Further more these scientist that say it could happen gave it a 1 in 50,000,000 chance that could happen.

To win the mega millions lottery there is a 1 in 175,711,536 chanc eof that and people do win the lottery.

And further more. they dont have to admit there will be a black hole because if one was created and continuously got bigger. we wouldnt even know it happend.

There are some people really upset by this. they will probably blow it up way before it ever creates a black hole.
Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation
Hawking radiation (also known as Bekenstein-Hawking radiation) is a thermal radiation with a black body spectrum predicted to be emitted by black holes due to quantum effects. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking who provided the theoretical argument for its existence in 1974, and sometimes also after the physicist Jacob Bekenstein who predicted that black holes should have a finite, non-zero temperature and entropy. Hawking's work followed his visit to Moscow in 1973 where Soviet scientists Yakov Zeldovich and Alexander Starobinsky showed him that according to the quantum mechanical uncertainty principle, rotating black holes should create and emit particles.[1] The Hawking radiation process reduces the mass of the black hole and is therefore also known as black hole evaporation.

Because Hawking radiation allows black holes to lose mass, black holes that lose more matter than they gain through other means are expected to dissipate, shrink, and ultimately vanish. Smaller micro black holes (MBHs) are currently predicted by theory to be larger net emitters of radiation than larger black holes, and to shrink and dissipate faster.

Hawking's analysis became the first convincing insight into a possible theory of quantum gravity. However, the existence of Hawking radiation has never been observed, although the Large Hadron Collider may produce micro black holes, which would provide some evidence for Hawking radiation[2]. In June 2008, NASA launched the GLAST satellite, which will search for the terminal gamma-ray flashes expected from evaporating primordial black holes. In speculative large extra dimension theories, CERN's Large Hadron Collider may be able to create micro black holes and observe their evaporation.[3][4][5]

Ground based observatories, such as the Pierre Auger (a research partner of The University of Utah Telescope array), might also be capable of detecting evaporating MBHs that would form in the upper atmosphere by the impact of high-speed protons, also known as cosmic rays. Recent results[6] from the Pierre Auger now suggest that the highest energy protons (with energies of 1020 eV or higher) originate from nearby active galactic nuclei (AGN) where they are accelerated and travel to earth for hundreds of millions of years at nearly the speed of light, and upon impact might create MBHs, allowing for observation of their evaporation.
They never said "impossible," They said absurdly implausable...meaning it COULD happen, but more than likely won't.

Also, IF the LHC did produce a micro black hole, and the theory of Hawking Radiation proves to be true, then a micro black hole wouldn't exist for more than a few nanoseconds, in which time scientists would be able to measure the rate at which it evaporates and ultimately disappears.

Also, according to the last paragraph in my quote from wiki, micro black holes can also occur naturally. So what does that mean?

I can't find anywhere that said there was a 1:50,000,000 chance to create a MBH. Could you maybe provide a link to it?
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