[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2786257]To do it correctly, the entire fuel system needs to be "E85-proofed".[/QUOTE]

What does that entail?

[QUOTE=subie OCD;2786275]What does that entail?[/QUOTE]

$$$$.

[QUOTE=kloo413;2786249]Wow...that's awesome. I think I may need to give that a shot Ed and top that.[/QUOTE]

Well see

[QUOTE=stupidchicken03;2773025]so for E85 you just need huge injectors? Is that it, or are they other mods that have to be done?

And what type of mpg's do you get driving "normal" :lol:[/QUOTE]

By normal you mean sometimes give it some gas I presume. I did a test and I got around 300miles on 20 gallons.

[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2786320]$$$$.[/QUOTE]

Gee, thanks! Now I know exactly what to do!

1.$$$$
2.$$$$
3.????
4.Profit

In simple terms a pretty big conversion of lines, injectors, etc. Basically anything that has to do with fuel which basically equals to a really fat grave for your wallet.

[QUOTE=subie OCD;2786354]Gee, thanks! Now I know exactly what to do!

1.$$$$
2.$$$$
3.????
4.Profit[/QUOTE]

Exactly!

All rubber/synthetic rubber components need to be replaced with components that are E85 compatible.

[I]I believe[/I] that the Levy Brothers have done a parallel fuel line system.

[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2786390]Exactly!

All rubber/synthetic rubber components need to be replaced with components that are E85 compatible.

[/QUOTE]

Do you speak from direct experience or do you have some literature on the subject you would like to share?

The research I've done suggests that the modern rubber neoprene lines, gaskets, and seals are built to withstand the corrosive effects of water in ethanol and gasoline. Only older cars that used more steel in the fuel systems or cork gaskets may have issues from long term exposure to water or 100% ethanol.

From more direct experience, there are many EVO's that have been running E-85 for the past few years with no issues. The local Subaru crowd is just starting to adopt the fuel, so I can't speak of any real long term direct experience there. There, are however, many Subaru's around the country that have been running E85 for a while now with no issues either. AFAIK none of these cars have special fuel lines, seals, or gaskets.

Thanks
-- Ed

i saw the video with the gtr, that sti is a beast

Thanks man, greatly appreciated

E85+VF39+EQTuned = Torque Monster

dam I love my Car haha

damn! looks like i might have to go e85 soon! downsti's car is CRAZY!

i wonder how a td04 would do with e85.....:p

[URL="http://www.engr.unl.edu/~ethanol/unl-sae2.pdf"]The New Silverado: An Ethanol (E85) Conversion
by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln[/URL]

I'm not trying to be a Negative Nancy, but just because you have never heard of a failure doesn't mean that failures are not occurring.

[QUOTE]In order to develop a fully compatible ethanol fuel
system, each component was analyzed in terms of
corrosion penetration and galvanic corrosion. All
components were required to be constructed of stainless
steel or anodized aluminum and all seals were
flurohydrocarbon elastomers. [B]In the entire system, not one
component fully met the requirements as specified, and all
components were therefore replaced or duplicated with a
suitable material.[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B]Steel Fuel lines[/B]
The carbon steel fuel lines were not considered
E85 compatible, due mostly to the possibility of galvanic
coupling of the steel line with more noble materials.
Corrosion byproduct clogging the fuel injectors and leading
to a lean burn condition and the eventual self destruction
of the engine was a possibility. [B]The carbon steel lines were
thus duplicated with a set of Type 304 stainless steel lines[/B]
which retained all of the original factory positions[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LOL Vtec;2786346]By normal you mean sometimes give it some gas I presume. I did a test and I got around 300miles on 20 gallons.[/QUOTE]

so around 15mpg. I norm get about 21mgp per tank.

how much is E85 down there? Around the corner from me i believe its $2.87 gallon

Right now 91oct is $3.15 gallon here.

E85- 300miles-20gallons x $2.87 = $57.40
91- 300miles- 14gallons x $3.15 = $44.10
E85- 210miles-14gallons x $2.87 = $40.18

damn

[QUOTE=KrAzYkld;2786505]damn! looks like i might have to go e85 soon! downsti's car is CRAZY!

i wonder how a td04 would do with e85.....:p[/QUOTE]

Thanks man

E85 is so badass I love that stuff,

I think your going to shatter than 5 speed hahaha, I'm sure it's going to be so damn responsive and so much torque

do it man, join the E85 gangstas haha

As gas mileage I get about

91 = 14 city 19highway

E85 = 10 city 16highway

The 91 gas station I usually go to is at $3.25

The E85 gas station I always go to is at $2.69

I'm not sure which is costing me more but E85 is way better than the pos we call 91 octane,

it's also very hard to stay off boost on E85 hahaha