Careful out there, I almost lost my Subie today!

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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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jesus,the lady called me this morning and hit the same thing. she says she saw a blue wrx behind her slide sideways. thank god she was in the grand cherokee. its AWD and heavy w/new tires. she blew through it all. i hit standing water on hwy 80 at around 8am as well. i was in my truck so i didnt feel anything. HUGE truck plus 37" tires means im stuck to the road lol.
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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please correct me if I'm wrong but you on stock bbs wheels that are 17x8, why the hell are you running 265's on a wheel that came with 235's stock, I have seen 245's but 265's on a 8" wheel is just crazy!!
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxBRAH
If serious that sucks man. Time to give him an asswhooping when you find him.
yeah and he has the nerve to give me attitude for taking my car
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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never got hydroplaned, maybe im lucky. Living in Monterey bay, we dont get much rain but when we do it ****in pours lol
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Anyone else experience anything like this today or recently?
Got a heavy rain in Pleasanton over the weekend. Tried to brake to slow down, and the ABS kicked in due to the hydroplaning. Nothing crazy.

I did a little AWD drift around a sharp turn. Made me miss my AE86 in the rain. hah.
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee

All you do is keep you foot on the gas like you're accelerating
This is untrue.

See, hydroplaning is happening because your tires can't cope with the amount of water they are forced to deal with. Accelerating will worsen the problem. Very GENTLY ease up on the throttle. DO NOT TOUCH THE BRAKES! Keep the wheel as straight as possible. As the car slows down the tire will regain traction when it reaches a point that it can cope with amount of water again or the vehicle weight and reduction in speed put it back in contact with the road surface.

Dude, speeding up is only overwhelming the tire even more. Those grooves in your tires can only handle so much. They're a lot better at doing their job in the rain when going slower than going faster.

Ok. I feel like I'm done here.
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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you can do anything with AWD, see....

Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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obv there was a pot hole in the road so that happend
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unit 91
This is untrue.

See, hydroplaning is happening because your tires can't cope with the amount of water they are forced to deal with. Accelerating will worsen the problem. Very GENTLY ease up on the throttle. DO NOT TOUCH THE BRAKES! Keep the wheel as straight as possible. As the car slows down the tire will regain traction when it reaches a point that it can cope with amount of water again or the vehicle weight and reduction in speed put it back in contact with the road surface.

Dude, speeding up is only overwhelming the tire even more. Those grooves in your tires can only handle so much. They're a lot better at doing their job in the rain when going slower than going faster.

Ok. I feel like I'm done here.
QFT! I was going to say (nearly) the same thing.

I love the wet season so much. Gives me a good chance to learn more about what I can and cannot do with my car because it is so easy to loose traction now. But this time around I am a little worried because I know that I don't have as much tread depth as I would want.
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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ya be careful with how much tread is in your tires, folks.. i never ever skimp on tires and love both sets i have
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by unit 91
this is untrue.

See, hydroplaning is happening because your tires can't cope with the amount of water they are forced to deal with. Accelerating will worsen the problem. Very gently ease up on the throttle. Do not touch the brakes! Keep the wheel as straight as possible. As the car slows down the tire will regain traction when it reaches a point that it can cope with amount of water again or the vehicle weight and reduction in speed put it back in contact with the road surface.

Dude, speeding up is only overwhelming the tire even more. Those grooves in your tires can only handle so much. They're a lot better at doing their job in the rain when going slower than going faster.

Ok. I feel like i'm done here.

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 05:33 AM
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I was at a track day a couple years back at T-Hill in the pouring rain and had a driving instructor who told me to keep my foot on the throttle (not full on accelerate) and avoid hitting the brakes.


Then when I was on the police academy we had to do drivers training in the big crown vics in wet and dry... They told us the same thing as I stated above. If you let off too fast your WILL spin, so either keep the throttle where it's at and don't do much to slow down until you're out of the worst.

I have a new set of tires that are going on today, Ive been waiting for the rain to put them on. IIve had them for like a year already, lol
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Yep. My day started at 7AM with a trip from Half Moon Bay to Castro Valley to take my Justy in for an alignment at Roger Kraus. The way back (around 10am) was much worse than the way in and I did see some people get squirrely. Myself, I was doing about 65-70mph in my Justy on 13" RE-92's (which is a great tire by the way) and having no issues beyond getting tossed around a little by the wind and "jetstream" from big rigs on the San Mateo bridge, and dodging the usual people doing whatever the **** it is they do when they should be driving.

I also drove through similar weather from SLO back to HMB, all HWY 1, I think two weeks ago in my other car which is a heavy, RWD beast on 245/45 (front) and 275/40 (rear) Pirelli P-Zeros. That was a similarly excellent experience. Hydroplaning happens - just got to be COMPLETELY alert and in tune with your surroundings. It's a weird feeling the first few times it happens - and it's increased by having wider tires (less lbs/sq inch on the ground) which a lot of us have.

I guess I count myself lucky as I have had a lot of bad weather/rain/ice/snow driving experiences over the years. The first driving of my life started on dirt roads at age 10 in Subarus "back in the day" so maybe that is where some this comes from, but I like to attribute it to simply PAYING ATTENTION while driving. It's critically important.
Half moon bay! we should meet up sometime! But don't you think at the beginning of every rain that someone always is in the trees at the 2nd to last corner before the crystal springs light on 92?

I haven't badly hydroplaned buttttt.. on open road I've done it on purpose once to figure out how a rear diff works since I came from an open one, still to this day forgetting that its limited slip oops. Knowing the limits and knowing how the car handles definitely a plus.
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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680 north from san ramon to alamo everyday that its pouring rain i get a lil floaty even with rain tires.... just sucky paving thru there!

becareful bruce!
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unit 91
This is untrue.

See, hydroplaning is happening because your tires can't cope with the amount of water they are forced to deal with. Accelerating will worsen the problem. Very GENTLY ease up on the throttle. DO NOT TOUCH THE BRAKES! Keep the wheel as straight as possible. As the car slows down the tire will regain traction when it reaches a point that it can cope with amount of water again or the vehicle weight and reduction in speed put it back in contact with the road surface.

Dude, speeding up is only overwhelming the tire even more. Those grooves in your tires can only handle so much. They're a lot better at doing their job in the rain when going slower than going faster.

Ok. I feel like I'm done here.
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From the national safety council:

Skidding and Hydroplaning in Rainy Conditions

Losing control of your car on wet pavement is a frightening experience.

Skids are scary but hydroplaning is completely nerve-wracking.

Hydroplaning happens when the water in front of your tires builds up faster than your car's weight can push it out of the way. The water pressure causes your car to rise up and slide on a thin layer of water between your tires.

Taking these simple tips into account can save your life.

You can prevent skids by driving slowly and carefully, especially on curves. Steer and brake with a light touch. When you need to stop or slow, do not brake hard or lock the wheels and risk a skid. Maintain mild pressure on the brake pedal.

If you do find yourself in a skid, remain calm, ease your foot off the gas, and carefully steer in the direction you want the front of the car to go. For cars without anti-lock brakes, avoid using your brakes. This procedure, known as "steering into the skid," will bring the back end of your car in line with the front. If your car has ABS, brake firmly as you steer into the skid.

Avoid hydroplaning by keeping your tires inflated correctly. Maintain good tire tread. Don't put off replacing worn tires. Slow down when roads are wet, and stay away from puddles. Try to drive in the tire tracks left by the cars in front of you.

If you find yourself hydroplaning, do not brake or turn suddenly. This could throw your car into a skid. Ease your foot off the gas until the car slows and you can feel the road again. If you need to brake, do it gently with light pumping actions. If your car has anti-lock brakes, then brake normally. The car's computer will automatically pump the brakes much more effectively than a person can do.

A defensive driver adjusts his or her speed to the wet road conditions in time to avoid having to use any of these measures.
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