I think that all religious text should be taught, not just the bible. The Koran(sp) has a ton of great history in it. It also gives us some insight on the countries we are currently at war with. There are also a ton of other religious texts out there, but, as I am not that up to speed on religions, I do not know them all.

 

No matter which way it goes, some one will cry and try to sue the school board for it anyways.

 

garden with a talking snake. a naked man and woman and an apple. the immaculate conception.

versus

empirical data
peer reviewed publications


now, i will say that both sides have their zealots and radical ideas, which is what is hindering the junction of faith and exploring the natural world through interpreting empirical data, as i think both are necessary for healthy humanitarianism. that being said, i would be ok with teaching religion in school if it included all religions and how those religions came about. like someone else said, kinda like a history class on religion.

 

Or a "Religion class."

 

must avoid this thread before i offend every religious person and argue a never ending argument.

 

There's nothing wrong with reading a book.

There's nothing more inapropriate in it than there is in Tom Sawyer or Oedipus Rex. It's an important writing in western culture. I think it's perfectly reasonable to teach it in a public school.

 

Most printed book in the world, why not have a read? think of it as education, thats what school's for right?

 

as for why id/creationism shouldnt be taught in school oppose to evolution

http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/7426
Judgement Day - Intelligent Design on Trial

is a documentary regarding the dover trial

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmil...chool_District

i guess as a history lesson is cool but teaching creationism as science is out of the question, as some suggested.

 

How is that a flaw? An all powerful eternal and omnipotent being created everything with His Word. It is a matter of faith, but it is consistent with the rest of the Bible. What God says is.

On the other hand, the BB and M-t-M evolution have BIG flaws. ie:

1) Where did the original matter that went BANG come from?

2) No one can logically explain or prove how inorganic material from the BANG became organic material, which "led" to the existence of life. There is no process know to man in which inorganic material becomes organic.

3) Our DNA is encoded with... wait for it... wait for it... CODED Material Coded material is Information and NO NATURAL process known to man gives birth to information. So with a Secular Humanist belief how do you explain where it came from?

4) M-t-M Evolution... Requires the opposite of what we see in nature with regards to information. When reproduction and mutation occur, we see a loss in information. M-t-M Evolution requires seeing a GAIN in information, which does not happen. This is not the same as adaptation. Adaptation is real, M-t-M Evolution is not.

 

Actually it's the opposite.

From eternity God knew who would be saved by His Grace, which means God already knew which people were receptive to His message and saved before they were even born, as well as which were not.

Because of Adam's sin, all of creation became fallen. Some people in their sinfulness have become homosexual. They were sinners from birth, but not homosexuals from birth. Homosexuality resulted from their sinful nature as the grew up.

Note, I'm not singling out homosexuals, just using his point to show him my point with his material. Homosexuality is no greater a sin than lusting or cheating on your wife.

 

You have bought into a lie my friend. Sin leads to the downfall of man, not redemption with God through His grace.

The reason you do not care if someone wants to sodomize a cow is because you do not understand the consequences of the action or you would not say what you had. People are hurt and just because you didn't help or watch does not make it all good.

Good is the nature of God, and the opposite is bad. Having sex with a cow is not the nature of God and is therefore not good.

Relativity with regards to good and bad is by the very nature of the definitions of good and bad inconsistent and a lie.

 

thats the thing, science can't answer everything. how about asking those questions 50 years later?

i find the urge to question things more comforting than being told how it is and thats it.

just ask this, in this huge universe, why are humans so special when a grain of sand on earth is comparable to our milky way galaxy in the universe?

sure, lets say that god created everything...but i still wont believe that genesis's way is how god created the universe.

 

i think god was a procrastinator. he waited til day seven to make man in his image? i think its because he was hanging out on a saturday evening smoking a bowl watching snl and said, "oh ****, it's due tomorrow?!" that's probably why he put the most temperature and impact sensitive areas of a man in a tiny little thin bag and hang it outside in the middle our body, where much harder objects like baseballs like to fly toward. why would an all knowing, all powerful, and merciful god do this? what is so intelligent about this design?

 

i think its great how politicians use god as a therapy session only for their convenience. these guys are really hurting the religion brand and cause. they get to commit adultery, lie to their constituents for personal benefit, run off to Argentina and lie about their whereabouts, then only after they get caught do they proclaim their faith for god in saying things like "god will get me through this and be failthful again". god is not anyone's *****, he's not there for your convenience. faith taken loosely is not faith, it's a safety net. i would be embarrassed if i were of faith and a devout (whatever), no matter what god i worshiped. simply stating you believe does not absolve you of having zero morals or value system.