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I bartended at a very nice bar through college and know a lot about alcohol and etiquette despite the fact that I drink Bud (regular Bud from a can). Here's how I break down the tipping scheme.
First and foremost, shoot for 15% across the board and you're server will be satisfied, especially if you're cordial and not overly demanding. Bartenders who go out and drink seriously have a silent protocol when it comes to tipping that the average customer will not understand. It relates completely to the atmosphere, the attitude of the patron and as mentioned, the difficulty in making the drinks requested. I'll give a for instance:
1) If a group comes in to my bar with a bunch of buddies and its a "hammered" time I'll read the occasion. They want strong drinks, possibly some conversation and good service. If I provide these things its likely I'll get a good tip.
2) A guy comes in an asks for a medicinal single malt scotch. No problem, I know he'd appreciate aficionado conversation and I'd likely recommend and Islay of some type. That will earn a respectable tip.
3) Chicks that order girly drinks. Too easy, they want something that will generally draw attention to them, usually nothing more than average in strength and case dependent: attention. Depending on what she's wearing will usually determine how I pour the drink. A girl wearing Jimmy Choo's will get an average pour, good tasting drink because more than likely she's not going to complain about not having straight booze (due to expense).
At the end of the day I think it's realistic to think the average citizen doesn't understand bartender protocol. A patron should expect good service and good drinks so long as the bar is not a mob scene and they tip somewhere around average. I always understood some people just plain don't tip so I don't hold it against them. I find the good tippers and really take good care of them to make up for it. I always found it evened out about right.
First and foremost, shoot for 15% across the board and you're server will be satisfied, especially if you're cordial and not overly demanding. Bartenders who go out and drink seriously have a silent protocol when it comes to tipping that the average customer will not understand. It relates completely to the atmosphere, the attitude of the patron and as mentioned, the difficulty in making the drinks requested. I'll give a for instance:
1) If a group comes in to my bar with a bunch of buddies and its a "hammered" time I'll read the occasion. They want strong drinks, possibly some conversation and good service. If I provide these things its likely I'll get a good tip.
2) A guy comes in an asks for a medicinal single malt scotch. No problem, I know he'd appreciate aficionado conversation and I'd likely recommend and Islay of some type. That will earn a respectable tip.
3) Chicks that order girly drinks. Too easy, they want something that will generally draw attention to them, usually nothing more than average in strength and case dependent: attention. Depending on what she's wearing will usually determine how I pour the drink. A girl wearing Jimmy Choo's will get an average pour, good tasting drink because more than likely she's not going to complain about not having straight booze (due to expense).
At the end of the day I think it's realistic to think the average citizen doesn't understand bartender protocol. A patron should expect good service and good drinks so long as the bar is not a mob scene and they tip somewhere around average. I always understood some people just plain don't tip so I don't hold it against them. I find the good tippers and really take good care of them to make up for it. I always found it evened out about right.
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I've learned to speed up my mojitos.. also.. the thing that bugs me about mojitos or any complicated drink for that matter is walking around my bar looking for ingredients.. if its not within arms reach.. its a PITA. if the mint was right next to me..it wouldn't be so bad.
and as far as the hate-o-meter... the way I see it... be patient, say please and thank you, don't complain and smile
Most of the time, I would rather serve the person that is nice and polite who tips not so well over the total jerk off who is demanding and rude despite his big tips.
I could go on and on about bar etiquette...
but i think thats what blogs are for.. maybe we should create a bartenders thread 
and as far as the hate-o-meter... the way I see it... be patient, say please and thank you, don't complain and smile
Most of the time, I would rather serve the person that is nice and polite who tips not so well over the total jerk off who is demanding and rude despite his big tips.I could go on and on about bar etiquette...
but i think thats what blogs are for.. maybe we should create a bartenders thread 
Well i'm glad the bartenders appreciate the politeness cause i'm not exactly a big tipper.
Although, I usually only order beers anyway. But ya, I know what you mean about ingredients being all over the place. I would have that problem when I worked in an Italian restaurant. We would be packed and I would be really busy making stuff and then I get random orders for really special stuff and would have to run around and find everything then prep it blah blah blah, you know. Except we got no tips.
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We should have a bartenders thread on here. I bartend at a bar / venue in cupertino.
As far as mojitos go I dont mind making them if it's not super busy but I absolutely do expect to be tipped well for making them. I remember there was a customer that ordered 2 mojitos while the bar was extremely busy and didn't tip a dime. I made sure that he was the very last person I served every time he came back to the bar.
when tipping, a dollar for a simple drink is considered average. I always expect at least 20 percent if you open a tab. The way I look at it when I go out is that a few dollars more isn't that much to me but it will mean a lot to the bartender serving me.
As far as mojitos go I dont mind making them if it's not super busy but I absolutely do expect to be tipped well for making them. I remember there was a customer that ordered 2 mojitos while the bar was extremely busy and didn't tip a dime. I made sure that he was the very last person I served every time he came back to the bar.
when tipping, a dollar for a simple drink is considered average. I always expect at least 20 percent if you open a tab. The way I look at it when I go out is that a few dollars more isn't that much to me but it will mean a lot to the bartender serving me.
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I guess that's a dumb hypothetical since if you're getting such expensive drinks then you're probably not that cheap.
I'm just poor.
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So just curious, what if you get a very simple drink that just happens to be top-shelf alcohol and costs a lot, but is really easy to make. Would it still be necessary to tip the 15-20%?
I guess that's a dumb hypothetical since if you're getting such expensive drinks then you're probably not that cheap.
I'm just poor. 
I guess that's a dumb hypothetical since if you're getting such expensive drinks then you're probably not that cheap.
I'm just poor. 
Tipping 15% is very important... Let me explain...
Lets say a person orders a drink costing $10.00. And this person does not tip me.
At the end of the night (this varies by company) I have to claim 10% of my sales. So the IRS taxes me on 1$.
I tip my barback at least half of what I make... so that means I could have made 2..so I give him 1. But I didn't make anything.. I'll give him 1 anyways.
Also, I have to tip out the food runner.. despite food not being ordered 10 cents on that transaction.
That means I just PAID someone to have a drink...
and this is not uncommon.. at the end of some nights (not all thank goodness).. I'll sell 1700.00 and walk out with less than 10%... thats less than 170.00.. but the IRS thinks I made at least 170.00 so they will tax me on that.
When I tip... I tend to overtip..(it's an industry thing) but I usually think to myself.. "what could I possibly do with this extra dollar? He (or she) can have it."
Most of the income made is also from tips. Since the paycheck will be virtually minimum wage, and the more tips you claim the smaller your $$ paycheck will be. And yes, i also believe it's an industry thing hahaha.
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I usually just figure in a nice even number between 15-20%
Contrary to much belief... you can still order very expensive stuff and not tip.
Tipping 15% is very important... Let me explain...
Lets say a person orders a drink costing $10.00. And this person does not tip me.
At the end of the night (this varies by company) I have to claim 10% of my sales. So the IRS taxes me on 1$.
I tip my barback at least half of what I make... so that means I could have made 2..so I give him 1. But I didn't make anything.. I'll give him 1 anyways.
Also, I have to tip out the food runner.. despite food not being ordered 10 cents on that transaction.
That means I just PAID someone to have a drink...
and this is not uncommon.. at the end of some nights (not all thank goodness).. I'll sell 1700.00 and walk out with less than 10%... thats less than 170.00.. but the IRS thinks I made at least 170.00 so they will tax me on that.
When I tip... I tend to overtip..(it's an industry thing) but I usually think to myself.. "what could I possibly do with this extra dollar? He (or she) can have it."
Tipping 15% is very important... Let me explain...
Lets say a person orders a drink costing $10.00. And this person does not tip me.
At the end of the night (this varies by company) I have to claim 10% of my sales. So the IRS taxes me on 1$.
I tip my barback at least half of what I make... so that means I could have made 2..so I give him 1. But I didn't make anything.. I'll give him 1 anyways.
Also, I have to tip out the food runner.. despite food not being ordered 10 cents on that transaction.
That means I just PAID someone to have a drink...
and this is not uncommon.. at the end of some nights (not all thank goodness).. I'll sell 1700.00 and walk out with less than 10%... thats less than 170.00.. but the IRS thinks I made at least 170.00 so they will tax me on that.
When I tip... I tend to overtip..(it's an industry thing) but I usually think to myself.. "what could I possibly do with this extra dollar? He (or she) can have it."
It's QQ thankyouverymuch
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I love the "bartender hates you" videos, seriously some funny stuff.
But is this a tipping thread now?
I seriously side with Mr. Pink, I rarely tip, although I do find myself tipping bartenders most of the time.
But is this a tipping thread now?
I seriously side with Mr. Pink, I rarely tip, although I do find myself tipping bartenders most of the time.


