Automobile mag sucks badly
Automobile mag sucks badly
Did anyone read the article on the new sti a while back??? about how it was good the direction it went in and how "sti didnt make its name as a track car".........lol the guy who wrote the article was obviously a journalist not a car guy...........the worst subie article i've ever read. Does he even know what an sti is? the comments he makes are just insane.
Also I don't think you'd try and argue with me that the sti made its name as a track car in the us, not a rally car. How many people do you see on iwsti rallying their cars vs. tarmac tracking them???? hmmmmmmmmm nice try tho......
Also in his article track is mainly implying racing, he doesn't say what type. Read the article you douchebag......
and go argue semantics somewhere else pud
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He was speaking about how it did not make its name as a track focused car but implying it was a daily driver regular car.
Also I don't think you'd try and argue with me that the sti made its name as a track car in the us, not a rally car. How many people do you see on iwsti rallying their cars vs. tarmac tracking them???? hmmmmmmmmm nice try tho......
Also in his article track is mainly implying racing, he doesn't say what type. Read the article you douchebag......
and go argue semantics somewhere else pud
Also I don't think you'd try and argue with me that the sti made its name as a track car in the us, not a rally car. How many people do you see on iwsti rallying their cars vs. tarmac tracking them???? hmmmmmmmmm nice try tho......
Also in his article track is mainly implying racing, he doesn't say what type. Read the article you douchebag......
and go argue semantics somewhere else pud
He was just pointing that out, not trying to flame you.
You need to relax.
Ok well, I said the sti mades it mark in the US as far as sales and people buying them up. I'm talking about sales, not about how people came to hear of the impreza in the first place....and obviously he was flaming me by saying it how he did, trying to disagree with that is retarded.
I didn't see people buying the sti's in the us to rally them, i saw them doing it to track them on tarmac.
Obviously I wouldn't disagree that the car came about how it did as a rally car.
I'm relaxed plenty, just get sick of people posting up stupid **** when I was trying to see if anyone else was alarmed by this article and its sweeping generalizations on the sti.
From a 08 STi owner I met at Laguna Seca early this month, he said it understeered everywhere. He owned a GD wagon before the STi. He was about 1 sec slower than his buddy with a stock '05 on crappy tires. They were out on some dirt before the event and he loved the car on dirt.
The '08 STi is less "raw" than the previous models. It's not a track car, maybe it will be with the right suspension mods. My '04 didn't really handle well until I did the sways and coilovers to dial the understeer out.
As for the article, I think they are refering to a stock STi. Some cars are made for the track when they come out of the factory, ie lotus exige. The STi as a general is a good all around car that handles well in everyday driving.
The '08 STi is less "raw" than the previous models. It's not a track car, maybe it will be with the right suspension mods. My '04 didn't really handle well until I did the sways and coilovers to dial the understeer out.
As for the article, I think they are refering to a stock STi. Some cars are made for the track when they come out of the factory, ie lotus exige. The STi as a general is a good all around car that handles well in everyday driving.
From a 08 STi owner I met at Laguna Seca early this month, he said it understeered everywhere. He owned a GD wagon before the STi. He was about 1 sec slower than his buddy with a stock '05 on crappy tires. They were out on some dirt before the event and he loved the car on dirt.
The '08 STi is less "raw" than the previous models. It's not a track car, maybe it will be with the right suspension mods. My '04 didn't really handle well until I did the sways and coilovers to dial the understeer out.
As for the article, I think they are refering to a stock STi. Some cars are made for the track when they come out of the factory, ie lotus exige. The STi as a general is a good all around car that handles well in everyday driving.
The '08 STi is less "raw" than the previous models. It's not a track car, maybe it will be with the right suspension mods. My '04 didn't really handle well until I did the sways and coilovers to dial the understeer out.
As for the article, I think they are refering to a stock STi. Some cars are made for the track when they come out of the factory, ie lotus exige. The STi as a general is a good all around car that handles well in everyday driving.
Yeah, i've been arguing with the guys on sti forum about 08's.......i mean personally for me the problem with them is the cost increase.......
the car was not redesigned in its original spirit. Thats my problem
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I agree with ya, but automobile tried to say essentially the sti hadn't made its name in the us for raw perf. which is wrong imo.
Yeah, i've been arguing with the guys on sti forum about 08's.......i mean personally for me the problem with them is the cost increase.......
the car was not redesigned in its original spirit. Thats my problem
Yeah, i've been arguing with the guys on sti forum about 08's.......i mean personally for me the problem with them is the cost increase.......
the car was not redesigned in its original spirit. Thats my problem
anyways my point in the start was for people who had read the article and thought it was insane.
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I know of more people rallying STI's -especially in the US and Canada than pretty much any other car built in the last 10 years, the only other model that even comes close is the Evo.
The WRX/STI has always- since their inception been built as Subaru's rally homologation special, most track series had banned AWD since the 80's when Audi Quattros came on the scene.
Only in the last couple of years have racing series begun to allow AWD back on the tracks, and that has not been a big target demographic for Subaru, whether you want it to or not.
Say what you want, I really wasn't trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that the statement that "the STI didn't make its name as a track car" is pretty much spot on accurate, saying that the STI is one of the all time fantastic track cars like the M3 or the Lotus Elise would be outright silly.
That's all.
Oh and I do agree that Automobile magazine is a waste of money, I dropped my sub years ago, so I don't need some crybaby whining about how much it sux and at the same time telling me I should go buy one to read an article in it
That is really all.
The WRX/STI has always- since their inception been built as Subaru's rally homologation special, most track series had banned AWD since the 80's when Audi Quattros came on the scene.
Only in the last couple of years have racing series begun to allow AWD back on the tracks, and that has not been a big target demographic for Subaru, whether you want it to or not.
Say what you want, I really wasn't trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that the statement that "the STI didn't make its name as a track car" is pretty much spot on accurate, saying that the STI is one of the all time fantastic track cars like the M3 or the Lotus Elise would be outright silly.
That's all.
Oh and I do agree that Automobile magazine is a waste of money, I dropped my sub years ago, so I don't need some crybaby whining about how much it sux and at the same time telling me I should go buy one to read an article in it
That is really all.
I know of more people rallying STI's -especially in the US and Canada than pretty much any other car built in the last 10 years, the only other model that even comes close is the Evo.
The WRX/STI has always- since their inception been built as Subaru's rally homologation special, most track series had banned AWD since the 80's when Audi Quattros came on the scene.
Only in the last couple of years have racing series begun to allow AWD back on the tracks, and that has not been a big target demographic for Subaru, whether you want it to or not.
Say what you want, I really wasn't trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that the statement that "the STI didn't make its name as a track car" is pretty much spot on accurate, saying that the STI is one of the all time fantastic track cars like the M3 or the Lotus Elise would be outright silly.
That's all.
Oh and I do agree that Automobile magazine is a waste of money, I dropped my sub years ago, so I don't need some crybaby whining about how much it sux and at the same time telling me I should go buy one to read an article in it
That is really all.
The WRX/STI has always- since their inception been built as Subaru's rally homologation special, most track series had banned AWD since the 80's when Audi Quattros came on the scene.
Only in the last couple of years have racing series begun to allow AWD back on the tracks, and that has not been a big target demographic for Subaru, whether you want it to or not.
Say what you want, I really wasn't trying to start a flame war, just pointing out that the statement that "the STI didn't make its name as a track car" is pretty much spot on accurate, saying that the STI is one of the all time fantastic track cars like the M3 or the Lotus Elise would be outright silly.
That's all.
Oh and I do agree that Automobile magazine is a waste of money, I dropped my sub years ago, so I don't need some crybaby whining about how much it sux and at the same time telling me I should go buy one to read an article in it
That is really all.
yes the article was trash the guy made some other very incorrect statements about the sti......just a terrible article i was outraged.
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