View Poll Results: What setting is your DCCD on?
Typically keep it on auto all the time
18
35.29%
I switch it up to the rear, but mostly auto
14
27.45%
I keep it in the middle somewhere
2
3.92%
All the way to back almost always
3
5.88%
I don't have DCCD because SOA sucks!
14
27.45%
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Attention STi owners. RE: DCCD

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Old May 20, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
You get 265 bhp from a tune and a CBE?? What does the STI get stock?

I've been toying with taking my car to get tuned, but most people here said I shouldn't bother if I'm not going to mod it.
On GST's Mustang dyno, it is common to see stock STIs putting down ~220-225WHP.
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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i am still learning how to use it. hardly change it much cause i really dont understand when and where to change it. but i will learn it someday.
http://www.driveperformance.subaru.c.../blueprint.asp
http://www.subaru-impreza.org/forum/...ferential.html
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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hahah, you guys would whoop my *** at autox as I haven't been in about 8 years... I'm not knocking WRXs as my car is still a WRX, only with a bunch of factory mods. It's like comparing a stock car to a modded one, still the same car, just more oomph.
I've always thought it more accurate to say that the WRX and STI are completely different cars that really only share aesthetics. I could be wrong, though!
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aboothman
A quick post to dispell a common misconception regarding the DCCD.

The DCCD does not control the front/ rear bias, at least not directly. It only controls the amount of lock in the center diff.

Very Informative post from the evil NASIOC
Just for my own edification: am I correct in saying that it controls the front/rear torque bias?
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
You get 265 bhp from a tune and a CBE?? What does the STI get stock?

I've been toying with taking my car to get tuned, but most people here said I shouldn't bother if I'm not going to mod it.
That's poor advice. A bone stock STI puts down 215-225whp. With a good custom tune with no other mods, you can get 240-245whp/270-275ft-lbs. With a good TBE, boost controller, and custom tune, you can usually get 265-275whp/300-315ft-lbs.

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Old May 20, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
Just for my own edification: am I correct in saying that it controls the front/rear torque bias?
AFAIK, the DCCD when set to auto will vary the amount of Center Differential Lock. Using input from the speedo, yaw sensor, and steering angle sensor, it looks at a preprogrammed chart to determine the amount of Center Differential Lock beyond the native lock.

For my 06, the native lock (or torque F/R) is 41/59. If the algorithims call for it, it may lock up to full 50/50...I think some of the graphs show that as you "Exit" certain turns, Auto will make it full 50/50. Similarly, as you enter turns, DCCD will not engage at all, leaving it at 41/59 (for my 06).



the pic above shows the DCCD chart for an 04 or 05...
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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from the link in saqwarrior's post: http://www.driveperformance.subaru.c.../blueprint.asp...I think this is an interesting way to put how DCCD works in manual mode:

MANUAL MODE. Drivers who want or need to do things for themselves have six stages from which to select via the control wheel after hitting the DCCD manual switch. Both controls are on the console.
With the control wheel moved all the way forward, lock-up is 100 percent with torque distribution at 50 percent front/50 percent rear. The percentage of lock-up from the top “LOCK” stage to the bottom is:
  • 100 percent (50% front/50% rear)
  • 85 percent
  • 65 percent
  • 35 percent
  • 15 percent
  • 0 percent (35% front/65% rear)
again, the torque split ratios reflect for 04/05 STIs...

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Old May 20, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Motor Trend track-tested a 2005 STi and got the best lap times in Auto.

According to a letter I got from SOA,Manual mode in my 2004 with the wheel all the way rear is the same as Auto.
Old May 20, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
You get 265 bhp from a tune and a CBE?? What does the STI get stock?

I've been toying with taking my car to get tuned, but most people here said I shouldn't bother if I'm not going to mod it.
Thats HORRIBLE advice. The stock tune is HORRIBLE. Absolutely awful.

The drive by wire throttle sucks anus as well. If you apply 50% throttle, you only actually get like 33% (not exactly, but something like that). So even when you put down 90% throttle, you're not getting 90%. Doesn't make sense, huh? With a good AP tune (or whatever tune) it fixes that issue, so the throttle is way more accurate when you put your foot down. I saw a huge difference after my tune.

Not only that, but my power increase was GREAT!
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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if i remember to.. i always put my CD on full open. spirited/canyon driving i'll lock it 2 rolls up from open.

in the snow i'll roll it up closer to lock or fully lock the center diff. i'm not really a fan of the auto feature.
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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sweet thread! needed this too!
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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haha i only have one choice since i dont have an sti boo
Old May 21, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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keep on auto
Old May 21, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Auto mode is supposed to be the fastest mode for DCCD. My best guess: auto mode is more efficient in getting power down to the ground than any manual setting. The STi’s rear Torsen diff isn’t preload, so when the inside rear wheel gets off the ground, I would imagine that you would want the DCCD to send as much torque to the front as possible. Translating engine power to forward motion is what these cars are good at. Where as the rest of the time, it would probably be preferable to have most of the torque going to the rear (At least that's the way I prefer it). I doubt it really matters in situations where you aren't driving the **** out of your car.

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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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I feel you dan, I'd happen at a 10+ yrs wait to drive my dream car
"impreza WRX STI" <~~ sound better this way...haha

me...I'm too lazy to switch around, so I always keep it at auto...haha

I did want to find a place that is a big open area...cops free, I donno...get to know the car a bit more?? doing some rally style drift, hair pin drift (sorry, I'm a big WRC fan)

anyway...love the car, love it from inside out...
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