Anyone offer engine building coaching??

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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Yes that is Dimitri (Dema). Heard about it through Rick Escalambre up @ Skyline. I'm not sure if he's still running his shop in Santa Rosa though. I could mention one more name in there and you'd have the triumvirate of AutoTech from the 70's to today for that old crew. I've a lot of respect for Dema and Rick, the third guy, well, that would be called favoritism.

All I gotta say is "Take the class if you can!", the guy's a text and mod book on legs and really cool to boot.
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Yep... Dema is one of the smartest engine guys I've ever seen.
One has to realize that in addition to teaching for 40 years, owning one of the most important machine shops in the USA, developing much of what is now modern cam technology, he's also one of the guys who sets SAE Standards

Cool my buddy has a 67 maro that elgin's helped him make 600hp on his 350!


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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Would that be Dema Elgin of Elgin's custom grinding formally out of Redwood city?



Small group class?
We could set up a small group class. How many are interested?

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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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so that is 1.. anyone else... how many people do you need?
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
We could set up a small group class. How many are interested?

-- Ed
I'd be up for that! Would be a great learning expirence.
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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I'd love to, but I've never worked on my car sober.
I should try that out, it might reduce the thrown tools and profanities.
For now I'll just sit and wait for people to figure out who the third person I hinted at is. I'll give ya another hint, NATEF/CAT.

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
We could set up a small group class. How many are interested?

-- Ed
I just got given a set of cp 100mm pistons and a set of Element billet rods with only a couple of thousand miles on them... The owner just got a sleeved long rod motor. I need to replace the rings obviously but I'm only a bearing set, bore, oil & water pump, head studs, etc away from building my motor.... before it blows up... (granted my stock block has proven to be a very strong one...)

+1 Ed!
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Off-Topic, that (almost) looks like Kennedy High (Mission Valley R.O.P.)?
Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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+1 Ed!
+2 man, I'm down as long as you make it a Saturday deal so I am not "..stuck trying to make it to evening class on time.". My work territory is just too big to try and make it there in time on a weekday w/ traffic.
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The way I've done it in the past is basically guide you through the clearancing and assembly process. Very hands on but with close supervision. Remember you will still be paying for complete engine assembly plus a bit more for the instruction since it does take quite a bit longer. For first timers we will need 2 whole days for the shortblock assembly and of course all machine work will need to be done prior. I think I can set up 3 people at once although some tool sharing will be necessary.

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Seeings how this is an engine building thread.
I know how to tear and engine down, and put it back together (not the fine details).
I can follow torque specs and ****, but what building crease do I keep reading about? People say to use some kind of lube when reassembling things, I've never heard of that before. What is it and where does it go?
Old Dec 6, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
I've done this with a couple people now. Definately have to charge extra for the time and definately no beer drinking during assembly .

If you're interested, give us a call and we can work it out. I've taught quite a few techs now and have a nicely organized procedure worked out.

-- Ed
That is seriously fantastic! I would love to do that when/if I need my old and tired 02wrx's engine to be tuned up. I'm trying to squeeze life out of my bugeye, but eventually I am planning to build it along with stronger transmission. I'll keep this in mind.

Don't need to build now, but is there just spectator fee? Hehe
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How much does it cost now days to build an engine? Fully built not oem... Rough number?
Old Dec 6, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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How much does it cost now days to build an engine? Fully built not oem... Rough number?
Starts at $5000 and goes from there...depends on what you want vs what you can afford.
We can have builds done within one week.
Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliSuby
How much does it cost now days to build an engine? Fully built not oem... Rough number?
Built shortblocks start at $2900 if you have a core to work with. With labor, parts, fluids, etc for swapping the shortblock in, you'll be looking at $5k+ depending on head work and optional parts and components. Our average build ends up around $7-$8k and takes 2-3 weeks to complete. We can get them done in 1 week if we schedule you in well ahead of time and build the block ahead of time.

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoofus
Seeings how this is an engine building thread.
I know how to tear and engine down, and put it back together (not the fine details).
I can follow torque specs and ****, but what building crease do I keep reading about? People say to use some kind of lube when reassembling things, I've never heard of that before. What is it and where does it go?
We use Redline Assembly Lube for bearing surfaces and standard engine oil for lubing the cylinder walls, piston skirts, and rings for assemble. There are also a few different sealants that Subaru calls for that we always use.

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