Anyone in management consulting or work for a Consulting firm?
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hmm I might have been harsh as well but that's the god honest truth I'm speaking and I did try to be helpful.
I am completely on your side and I actually detest the image that consulting has in the Ivy Leagues. As my above post gets at, the executive team for a lot of Fortune 500 companies come from random universities and random business schools (or no bschool at all!) so I completely do not think it is justified that everyone these days wants to do consulting, it drives me nuts. I am however in the minority...
Anyways my real world advice to sum up was: consider your other options and really get "both sides of the coin" on this issue.
Originally Posted by BOOOST4
The general reality is that the "best and brightest" get "recruited" and the other 99% hit the classifieds. Since you're looking, you're not one of them so stop having such expectations.
Wow...harsh...I think that your generalized comments are anything but constructive. I'd like to know what makes everyone on this board the expert...personal experience? Is getting into the carrer world so cut and dry..."you weren't recruited...you're not qualified so stop trying"...I call B.S.
I think that one's carrer is affected by a number of factors; one of them being personal drive. Maybe we should stick to positive real world applicable advice...maybe a referral or too.
Unfortunately my field has nothing to do with what you are looking for but I am in an upper management position now (4 years out of school with a B.S. from a non Ivy league school...and I wasn't recruited) but I would be happy to go over my experiences in the working world. Shoot me a pm anytime lazybumm (that does sound weird
Wow...harsh...I think that your generalized comments are anything but constructive. I'd like to know what makes everyone on this board the expert...personal experience? Is getting into the carrer world so cut and dry..."you weren't recruited...you're not qualified so stop trying"...I call B.S.
I think that one's carrer is affected by a number of factors; one of them being personal drive. Maybe we should stick to positive real world applicable advice...maybe a referral or too.
Unfortunately my field has nothing to do with what you are looking for but I am in an upper management position now (4 years out of school with a B.S. from a non Ivy league school...and I wasn't recruited) but I would be happy to go over my experiences in the working world. Shoot me a pm anytime lazybumm (that does sound weird

hmm I might have been harsh as well but that's the god honest truth I'm speaking and I did try to be helpful.
I am completely on your side and I actually detest the image that consulting has in the Ivy Leagues. As my above post gets at, the executive team for a lot of Fortune 500 companies come from random universities and random business schools (or no bschool at all!) so I completely do not think it is justified that everyone these days wants to do consulting, it drives me nuts. I am however in the minority...
Anyways my real world advice to sum up was: consider your other options and really get "both sides of the coin" on this issue.
And furthermore as being helpful if you PM me I will be sure to try and forward your resume to the manager I worked under at Bain. I really can't guarantee much since this year's recruiting for most all finance and business related firms takes place early in the fall (so you BEST BET is to get some temporary internship or co-op work, and then apply for recruiting next fall), but as GG STi15 a referral is at least in order. Again, good luck.
And sorry for making 4 posts but I have a lot to say about this issue
Go join the business fraternity at Berkeley. I dunno AKPsi do they have that there?
And sorry for making 4 posts but I have a lot to say about this issue

Go join the business fraternity at Berkeley. I dunno AKPsi do they have that there?
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And furthermore as being helpful if you PM me I will be sure to try and forward your resume to the manager I worked under at Bain. I really can't guarantee much since this year's recruiting for most all finance and business related firms takes place early in the fall (so you BEST BET is to get some temporary internship or co-op work, and then apply for recruiting next fall), but as GG STi15 a referral is at least in order. Again, good luck.
And sorry for making 4 posts but I have a lot to say about this issue
Go join the business fraternity at Berkeley. I dunno AKPsi do they have that there?
And sorry for making 4 posts but I have a lot to say about this issue

Go join the business fraternity at Berkeley. I dunno AKPsi do they have that there?
Hey Verc, thanks for the responses, points well taken. I know I am way late and behind in the game, so I am pursuing other positions as well. I'm not like if I don't get a consulting position I don't work. I've decided a long time ago in school that I am not banking on my degree to eat in the future(in the long run). Among the reasons why I wanted to do consulting is getting an overall picture of business if you will, a broader picture is what I am aiming for.
For someone like me without an undergrad degree in business, it is difficult to get into such a position, but it is the road I chose when I started school. I was determined to study science(hence the bio, psych, the psuedo science, was just for my own personal interest/fullfilment), and I just thought that it would be a nice jumpstart in terms of business experience on the paper, I could have majored in business in school and would have probably enjoyed it much much more, and it would have certainly been much easier than semesters of Biochemistry. But it was the choice I made, sometimes I doubt it was the right choice, but most of the time I believe that it was the correct choice. I plan to do business on my own focusing around the biotech/pharma sector in China in the future, I have no plans of climbing the corporate ladder in 10 years. So, really, I am probably in it for the name more than anything else, to put on my resume, to impress a few people when I do pursue business in the future.
Yeah if I had decided on the consulting route earlier, I definitely would have looked into it more, but its my own responsibility for the untimely decision. And now that I am out of school, much of the school resources are not quite as available, and much of the on campus recruiting has come and gone or has started hiring for grads of 12/06 and 07 grads. So I am not holding my breath for a consulting position, but like I said, I am simply trying to deplete all my resources before calling it quits and it's a better chance than not doing anything.
I really do appreciate your help, I will send you a PM. thanks!
Finally criticisms are certainly welcome, no one is perfect. I know there are quite a bit of mistakes I've made, otherwise I wouldn't be posting on here, but one needs to take every possible route to find a solution, so here I am...thanks for the responses...there is always walmart.
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If you are open to suggestions, then I may be able to help. I work as a Recruiter and can either give you some advice, or maybe even help you find a job. If you have an end goal (consultant) at least you know where you want to end up, which is more than most grads you are half way there. What you need to do is get a job in a large firm, doing anything, but something in administration would be good (adminstration is a wide area so not just someones PA) where you can learn how the business world works. Learn as much as you can in a year or 18 months so you can build up some experience and then start looking for something in an industry you want. Internships don't mean anything, when you are going for a job there will always be someone else who has experience and the internship wont help. Think of your first job out of school as being part of your degree, you have the piece of paper and now you need experience before you can actually get the job you want, you may not like the job, but chances are you didn't like all your classes either.
if you want advice or someone who can help you PM me.
other wise good luck.
If you are open to suggestions, then I may be able to help. I work as a Recruiter and can either give you some advice, or maybe even help you find a job. If you have an end goal (consultant) at least you know where you want to end up, which is more than most grads you are half way there. What you need to do is get a job in a large firm, doing anything, but something in administration would be good (adminstration is a wide area so not just someones PA) where you can learn how the business world works. Learn as much as you can in a year or 18 months so you can build up some experience and then start looking for something in an industry you want. Internships don't mean anything, when you are going for a job there will always be someone else who has experience and the internship wont help. Think of your first job out of school as being part of your degree, you have the piece of paper and now you need experience before you can actually get the job you want, you may not like the job, but chances are you didn't like all your classes either.
if you want advice or someone who can help you PM me.
other wise good luck.
Did you check cal jobs/on-campus recruiting?
Its still not to late to get into the spring round
I got my current position, right out of school in may, by going through OCR.
I'm in a slightly different field however (engineering)
Its still not to late to get into the spring round
I got my current position, right out of school in may, by going through OCR.
I'm in a slightly different field however (engineering)
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If you are open to suggestions, then I may be able to help. I work as a Recruiter and can either give you some advice, or maybe even help you find a job. If you have an end goal (consultant) at least you know where you want to end up, which is more than most grads you are half way there. What you need to do is get a job in a large firm, doing anything, but something in administration would be good (adminstration is a wide area so not just someones PA) where you can learn how the business world works. Learn as much as you can in a year or 18 months so you can build up some experience and then start looking for something in an industry you want. Internships don't mean anything, when you are going for a job there will always be someone else who has experience and the internship wont help. Think of your first job out of school as being part of your degree, you have the piece of paper and now you need experience before you can actually get the job you want, you may not like the job, but chances are you didn't like all your classes either.
if you want advice or someone who can help you PM me.
other wise good luck.
If you are open to suggestions, then I may be able to help. I work as a Recruiter and can either give you some advice, or maybe even help you find a job. If you have an end goal (consultant) at least you know where you want to end up, which is more than most grads you are half way there. What you need to do is get a job in a large firm, doing anything, but something in administration would be good (adminstration is a wide area so not just someones PA) where you can learn how the business world works. Learn as much as you can in a year or 18 months so you can build up some experience and then start looking for something in an industry you want. Internships don't mean anything, when you are going for a job there will always be someone else who has experience and the internship wont help. Think of your first job out of school as being part of your degree, you have the piece of paper and now you need experience before you can actually get the job you want, you may not like the job, but chances are you didn't like all your classes either.
if you want advice or someone who can help you PM me.
other wise good luck.
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Did you check cal jobs/on-campus recruiting?
Its still not to late to get into the spring round
I got my current position, right out of school in may, by going through OCR.
I'm in a slightly different field however (engineering)
Its still not to late to get into the spring round
I got my current position, right out of school in may, by going through OCR.
I'm in a slightly different field however (engineering)
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qjumpr's advise is good too, you shouldn't need 10 years to climb the corporate ladder, but one or two years inside a company will be a huge step towards qualifying you for consideration from a consulting firm
Another thing to consider is that if the company you work for brings in consultants, you can build connections that way, having them see you in action at your job goes a lot farther than seeing a resume come into the HR department from an unknown entity.
Another thing to consider is that if the company you work for brings in consultants, you can build connections that way, having them see you in action at your job goes a lot farther than seeing a resume come into the HR department from an unknown entity.
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qjumpr's advise is good too, you shouldn't need 10 years to climb the corporate ladder, but one or two years inside a company will be a huge step towards qualifying you for consideration from a consulting firm
Another thing to consider is that if the company you work for brings in consultants, you can build connections that way, having them see you in action at your job goes a lot farther than seeing a resume come into the HR department from an unknown entity.
Another thing to consider is that if the company you work for brings in consultants, you can build connections that way, having them see you in action at your job goes a lot farther than seeing a resume come into the HR department from an unknown entity.
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