If anyone was involved in a shooting on campus, things like this will not be kept hush hush. University will probably get sued! and you know things can escalate from there!

I thought going to college is for higher learning...

 

... where did you get that idea.

both houses has been suspended pending investigation and it looks like they will be getting revoked.

 

Or it's a place where people who couldn't party in high school get to let loose. I guess that's why frats never appealed to me at all. I did all my partying in high school that it left college to meet girls and study somewhat.

 

I have buddies who were in the Asian frats, and I have always have some mix feelings about it.

One thing I like about it tho is the parties they have and the girls who are around them.

And one thing i don't like about it is when they all act tough as if they are in a gang.

which is pretty typical! ...typically lame

 

1 of my best friends is a lambda from UCSD. i have yet to ask him about this incident. but he told me b4 that the level of thuggishness in the frat varies depending on location/campus. some are chill.. others are thugs. all within the same frat though. its all good. variety is necessary in life.

 

ha ha... kinda sounds like i-club

 

What I notice about these Asian Frats like the Lambda's and PAPhi's are that they all act like tough guys because they know they got there bro's to back them up. Sometimes the smallest guy will talk the most crap just because he has about 324819 other people behind him who he knows got his back.

Ive seen in many times at parties where someone says something and people start running their mouths. What I find lame about this whole thing is how the hell you gonna have a "verbal argument" on like a Mon. and then settle it the following Sun. at a park? If you got beef with someone throw down right there. That is weak. This whole thing is an embarrassment to SJSU and UCSC, to the other Lambda and PAPhi chapters, and the asian community.

 

Haha! I totally agree. I guess the only ***** they have is when they're around 12321321938223 people. Strength in numbers or some crap. I hate the punks like that, they make me laugh.

 

Your friend is right. Lambdas at different chapters don't all act the same or have the same image. What often gets overlooked is the amount of cultural, school related, and community service activities the fraternity does. Did you all know that we participate in the Asian American Bone Marrow Donor Program and add about 1500 new names to the national registry? Of course not! I don't blame you as it isn't big news. The only thing that ever gets talked about are fights.

Fights happen between many groups not just asian fraternities. I've seen it between asian clubs on schools too. I've seen it between people at parties who aren't affiliated.

At Cal Poly, how many friggin Asian thugs do you think there are? We're all damn Engineers and business majors. So before everyone starts making ignorant statements, remember that just like a race of people, stereotypes are not all true.

 

Have you noticed how many times their bros are there to actually break up the fight and pull people apart?

Did you read the article? How are your dates so wrong? First of all a little insight. 3 lambdas got jumped by 15 paphis at a pool hall on Monday night. On Tuesday, they were suppose to meet to discuss a way to settle tensions between the houses and for the paphis to apologize for jumping the lambdas. This was after a Lambda fraternity meeting in which they were all still wearing business atire. But what happened instead, the paphis bring people outside of their house and also knives. They even called up paphis from Santa Cruz to back them up. Did you know that all of the injured people were lambdas with stab wounds and also the one who died was a Lambda stabbed in the heart?

So while the Lambdas were there to talk peace, the paphis showed up to fight. The Lambdas were even outnumbered 2 to 1. Who was still at the scene of the crime? The Lambdas cause they called 911 for the police to come. All the paphis and their friends left and that is why the paphi house was roped off by police all day.

So please, don't post information you don't know anything about as some people may take it as actual events that took place.

This stuff might be funny to people on the board, but to me since I actually know the guy, it's not a comedic topic.

 

That's the point, no parties occur on campus. They are all at clubs either in San Jose or San Francisco.

Universities don't seem to care about minority fraternities. They just focus on the mainstream fraternities. That's why they didn't know the relations are so bad. Who the hell is going to go to the university to tell them, "oh this fraternity and that fraternity don't like each other."

 

dude, sorry to hear about this... specially if they are your friend.

but put it in some kind of perspective.

why would ANYBODY want to show up at a park, midnight... to talk things out, and bring their friends w/ them... its not a very bright decision on either party.

both parties are guilty of making bad decision... they are both to blame.

 

I feel bad about your friend, but at the same time its a tragedy that it had to go this far. To answer some of your questions. I do not know all the facts and you probably do know waaaay more than I do considering Im just going on what the reports are saying. What I do have is first hand experience since I often time do go to the parties or club events these frats throw. Now I know your not gonna be stupid and slander the name of your own frat so of course your gonna defend them and make them look like the good guys or peacemakers in this whole situation. But how are you gonna tell me that they went to a freakin park at midnight to "Talk." Maybe its a lie but the news did say that there has been a long time rivalry between these two frats. Yes I know the guy who was stabbed was a lambda and yes common sense would tell me to stay if a friend was stabbed or to run if I was part of the guilty party. I don't undertsand how any of my statements would "lead people to think the wrong thing?" The things I stated were true and other things were based on observances. But what I don't want to hear is that you guys came to be the peacemakers and the other guys came to fight. Thats waccck. Just tells me that one group came a bit more prepared than the other group. I am sorry that something so tragic came of this and I feel for the dude's family and friends that something as tragic as that came from something as stupid as this.

 

He wasn't a friend, just an aquaintence. They wanted to meet right away to prevent any more violence. They were suppose to meet earlier in the day but pa phi's kept postponing. Some people are speculating that it was because they were waiting for their bros from santa cruz to come by.

I myself don't think they made a wise decision when they went to the park and noticed so many frickin people on there side. They know the members of the other fraternity and the size of their house. They should have walked away after noticing something wasn't right.

As far as I know, only two mediators from each house were talking in the center but I think something materialized behind both of them. The mediators got bum rushed. One was the guy stabbed to death and the other got knocked in the head and was unconicous till the next day.

 

I'm trying to be impartial about this but my girlfriend knows both sides pretty well as shes in a sorority at San Jose state.

I know some of the san jose state pa phi's myself, maybe better than the lambdas because of her. I don't think this was a decision on behalf of the house but I don't know their side because they can't talk to anyone about it for obvious reasons. I think it has more to do with the people not part of their house brought there for backup and who are currently on the run.

Like I said, a lot of Lambdas didn't go because nothing was suppose to go down. How do you think only 20 lambdas were there and yet authorities counted almost 70 at the scene???

Yes they made the wrong decision about going through with the talks given the situation as I would've driven off seeing how many people were from the other group, but I don't know if they expected anything to actually go down. I know one guy who went home who would've been down to fight had he known one was going to occur so from that I assume they are telling me the truth when saying they had no intention to fight.

Sorry to be rude and jump on you Japsican. I didn't mean to come off. I just don't like to be associated as a gang member as some people are throwing out there.