Another Motor Down the Tubes, Need some opinions...
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Pretty much.
You say that the crawford motor was #2... and that the #3 and #4 motor was a UDSM STi short block... but what about the internals? wasn't this motor still a crawford motor to some extent?
-Gagan
You say that the crawford motor was #2... and that the #3 and #4 motor was a UDSM STi short block... but what about the internals? wasn't this motor still a crawford motor to some extent?
-Gagan
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I remember when the last one went we talked about the heads possibly being the culprit as it was the only non changed part from the crawford mess.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
hopefully it's not as bad as it seems. This sucks man. I honestly have no words for you. Bummed bro....truly bummed.
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Cuttiing my losses is a complete insult. If I were to cut my losses It should have been done when the first motor went out.
What would you do?[/QUOTE]
The economist in me is screaming 'SUNK COST!!!'.
Your past investments in the motor are irrelevant at this point, if you want to make a purely 'can I afford this' rational decision. What matters is RIGHT NOW, do you think a new engine will work? Is it worth $3500 to you? Your past history should not be a factor here.
Cuttiing my losses is a complete insult. If I were to cut my losses It should have been done when the first motor went out.
What would you do?[/QUOTE]
The economist in me is screaming 'SUNK COST!!!'.
Your past investments in the motor are irrelevant at this point, if you want to make a purely 'can I afford this' rational decision. What matters is RIGHT NOW, do you think a new engine will work? Is it worth $3500 to you? Your past history should not be a factor here.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
There is quite a bit that I am not sharing, as this story is way too long. One thing I will share is that from the moment the car was removed from FLI(***kers). I vowed to both Ed and Mike, I was no longer going to ignore thier suggestions. What they recommended is what we would do. I follow thier instuctions to a tee. Both of them I am sure can attest to that. I am active enough in the community that many can verify how long this road has been, and that I have never veared off the path regarkess of how rough it got.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
you ever get money out of the folks that said they'd pay up with some of the other blown motors????
mcowger: I totally understand what you are saying. For what ever reason past experience has quite an influence. I guess that is why I am asking a bit more from Mike this time around. Quite a bit relies on his certainty.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
mcowger: I totally understand what you are saying. For what ever reason past experience has quite an influence. I guess that is why I am asking a bit more from Mike this time around. Quite a bit relies on his certainty.
My advice? Given that you must have a car, I'd suggest going and buying a brand spanking new COMPLETE DEAD STOCK WRX motor, shoving it in the car and neve touching it again. No tuning, no modifying it, etc. Stock ECU, stock motor.
Its the least cost answer with the greatest liklihood of working for a long time, short of buying a $2000 honda on CL.
best of luck!
--Matt
Look at the bright side - at least your driver's rear door is CHERRY, brah. Ho man that sucks bigtime... I thought my car was cursed but DAYAM.
What would I do? Pick up a cheapo beater to get around and take the stress out of rebuilding the Suby FIRST. Then, get a stock USDM STi engine, supporting parts to make it safe and strong, and have it tuned conservatively. Mike knows what is up with your car, the history and such, so my thought is he will work with it accordingly to make sure your car is safe and sound. I cannot speak for him, but this is what his reputation suggests.
I hope it works out for you Jeff - this is a raw deal to be sure. I have been thinking of turning in this R32 for a WRX wag but then I hear these stories and remember my own (not even close to yours) and I think... Hmm... Nah.
An old timer told me "never rely solely on a turbo car, always have a backup. Never under any circumstances own two turbo or two rotary cars at once as they will gang up on you." Words to live by.
What would I do? Pick up a cheapo beater to get around and take the stress out of rebuilding the Suby FIRST. Then, get a stock USDM STi engine, supporting parts to make it safe and strong, and have it tuned conservatively. Mike knows what is up with your car, the history and such, so my thought is he will work with it accordingly to make sure your car is safe and sound. I cannot speak for him, but this is what his reputation suggests.
I hope it works out for you Jeff - this is a raw deal to be sure. I have been thinking of turning in this R32 for a WRX wag but then I hear these stories and remember my own (not even close to yours) and I think... Hmm... Nah.
An old timer told me "never rely solely on a turbo car, always have a backup. Never under any circumstances own two turbo or two rotary cars at once as they will gang up on you." Words to live by.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Catch Cans: Mike has had problems in the past with running different ID hoses. Apparently this can result in excessive back pressure in the crank case. It's a long shot but an educated one.
Sorry for the Noob question, I guess I don't understand what this means? Someone explain?
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I'd say if you still want a 2.5L, then rebuild your motor with those 04 heads and ditch the catch can setup you've been running... run no catch cans and set the hoses up like stock just to make sure that wasn't the issue all along. Take every single factor into consideration if you do choose to rebuild.
If you don't want to gamble on the rebuild then do a STI motor which you would still be really happy with.
Lastly if you don't wanna take any chances just go back to running a completley stock WRX motor since it will be cheapest and be reliable.
If you don't want to gamble on the rebuild then do a STI motor which you would still be really happy with.
Lastly if you don't wanna take any chances just go back to running a completley stock WRX motor since it will be cheapest and be reliable.