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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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And 9-11-2003...f ucking justice is not what I want. Justice if for U.S. Citizens...I want blood...I want the blood of my sworn enemy...they killed 3000...THREE THOUSAND...3000 of our fine countrymen...in one day...

No...justice...no!!!...B L O O D & R E V E N G E!!!!! I want f ocking blood on my saber.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
I'm backing Eric on this one.

The war in Iraq was right, for all of the wrong reasons. Bush did not lie...but he sold the wrong idea. We were wasting BILLIONS of dollars on MIO ops in the gulf inspecting stupid ships suspecting of smuggling Iraqi oil. Saddam was the second coming of Hitler, and he was ignoring international sanctions.

THE FRENCHEIS AND KRAUTS HAD IT RIGHT? PSOPER...you are an ignoramous! You obviously havn't been paying attention to the the very recent news...the Frenchies, Russians, Germans and countless others were on Saddam's dole. He was giving them oil vouchers to oppose the war. WORTH BILLIONS! Fool...

Tennant (Spelling) at the CIA needs to be fired. It was bad intelligence. Nobody lied to anybody...you communist *******s. Since Bush is at the top, he is where the accountability chain stops. If he would stop worrying about screwing up our society with Illegal Aliens for his big corperations, he may be able to get to the bottom of the Iraq affair. The whole WMD argument for the war was a bad strategy. Saddam had to fall, but we should have sold the war on human rights, and sanction violation issues.

By the way...aren't you idiots glad that our fighting men are dying while TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE ENEMY? I sure as hell am. I hate to see my fellow servicemembers killed in Iraq, but that is what we do. This is a chess game of global proportion. I am glad to see Al Queda and Anser Al Islam fockers getting smoked in Iraq and Afganistan, instead of in the USA. What we did in Iraq was level the playing field. We know that the crazy rags would all head to Iraq in droves to fight the oppressors and infadels, and it is there that our Apaches, Kiowa Warriors, Tanks, and BRAVE FIGHTING men are filling them full of DU! Yes DEPLETED URANIUM...what a great substance!

I hate Pinko liberals...I am SOOOOOOOOO Glad that I am in Virginia, where true Americans are the majority, and not the underspoken minory that they are in the Bay.
I was waiting for Andy to reply , didn't realize you were in Norfolk I miss the VA and the DC area so have fun for me if you ever get time. I guess that explains why you haven't posted in awhile.

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
I'm backing Eric on this one.

The war in Iraq was right, for all of the wrong reasons. Bush did not lie...but he sold the wrong idea. We were wasting BILLIONS of dollars on MIO ops in the gulf inspecting stupid ships suspecting of smuggling Iraqi oil. Saddam was the second coming of Hitler, and he was ignoring international sanctions.

THE FRENCHEIS AND KRAUTS HAD IT RIGHT? PSOPER...you are an ignoramous! You obviously havn't been paying attention to the the very recent news...the Frenchies, Russians, Germans and countless others were on Saddam's dole. He was giving them oil vouchers to oppose the war. WORTH BILLIONS! Fool...

Tennant (Spelling) at the CIA needs to be fired. It was bad intelligence. Nobody lied to anybody...you communist *******s. Since Bush is at the top, he is where the accountability chain stops. If he would stop worrying about screwing up our society with Illegal Aliens for his big corperations, he may be able to get to the bottom of the Iraq affair. The whole WMD argument for the war was a bad strategy. Saddam had to fall, but we should have sold the war on human rights, and sanction violation issues.

By the way...aren't you idiots glad that our fighting men are dying while TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE ENEMY? I sure as hell am. I hate to see my fellow servicemembers killed in Iraq, but that is what we do. This is a chess game of global proportion. I am glad to see Al Queda and Anser Al Islam fockers getting smoked in Iraq and Afganistan, instead of in the USA. What we did in Iraq was level the playing field. We know that the crazy rags would all head to Iraq in droves to fight the oppressors and infadels, and it is there that our Apaches, Kiowa Warriors, Tanks, and BRAVE FIGHTING men are filling them full of DU! Yes DEPLETED URANIUM...what a great substance!

I hate Pinko liberals...I am SOOOOOOOOO Glad that I am in Virginia, where true Americans are the majority, and not the underspoken minory that they are in the Bay.
Your a stupid kunt.

Bush set up his own intelligence gathering and ignored what the cia and dia presented him with. If anything the CIA did do its job, just that those in powers set up a system so that they could ignore it and not have to blame the CIA and or DIA (and make them political enemys). So i suggest you ****ing do a bit of non biased reading and pull your head out of your ***. Your nothing but an ignorant price who has nothing but stupidity speweing from his mouth.

(note how i can play the name calling game as well? doesnt sound to intelligent does it?)

oh and your stupid as **** (has anyone ever told you that?)
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
And 9-11-2003...f ucking justice is not what I want. Justice if for U.S. Citizens...I want blood...I want the blood of my sworn enemy...they killed 3000...THREE THOUSAND...3000 of our fine countrymen...in one day...

No...justice...no!!!...B L O O D & R E V E N G E!!!!! I want f ocking blood on my saber.
Your a ****ing tool man a tool, not even a good tool. Something like a 48mm spanner wrench that got warped.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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And even the human rights groups have stated that hinging a war against iraq on human rights issues would have been stupid as there was no pressing humans right issue to be addressed. And prior abuses were pretty much done nad over with.

now if we wanted to be just and moral and everything that you think we are we should have invaded NK a long time ago

http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/arti...136483,00.html

those ****s need to be taken care of, much more so then iraq or even afghanistan ever needed to be.

BUt lets face it our goverment lied to us on both accounts (afghanistan and iraq). Even sis can agree that it could have been much more effective and less intrusive to oust the goverment of iraq with a few well placed black ops teams and or cruisemissles, and or smart bombs. No easy task but we would have had to bury 550 americans and countless innocent iraqis (not to mention those that are guilty).

A full on invasion in my eyes is nothing more then a bully beating up a band geek to show off his muscles and new techniques of destruction. But of course if we would have let another goverment (even a puppet goverment) come to power with out much of a US presence we wouldnt have been able to control the oil contracts, much less the re construction projects for an entire country that wasnt destroyed.

But hey stupid cocksure ****s like you andy are the ones that will drive this country off the brink into a world where everyone is our enemy. And dont be stupid and think that this country can stand that, **** man a group of 20 men with the right equipment and training could bring this country to its knees. Much less a world filled with people who hate us more then the devil.

We the US need a lesson in PR, more so then a lesson in how to destroy a country.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
And 9-11-2003...f ucking justice is not what I want. Justice if for U.S. Citizens...I want blood...I want the blood of my sworn enemy...they killed 3000...THREE THOUSAND...3000 of our fine countrymen...in one day...

No...justice...no!!!...B L O O D & R E V E N G E!!!!! I want f ocking blood on my saber.
Boy, I sure am glad I'm just an ignoramus, and not a brainwashed numbskull like you -at least I can still think for myself....

- if I'm not mistaken, last time I checked the people responsible for flying the planes into the WTC and Pentagon were the first ones killed by their actions that tragic day.

So you are a little too late- they're already dead.

That's the pisser about getting people so pissed off at you that they resort to suicide bombings, no one's left to prosecute except the innocent, but don't let that get in your way.... it doesn't slow down the Likudniks-


Hey Andy you know what?- why don't you go over to that uranium stewn wasteland that's been created in the cradle of civilization with my tax money, take your saber and have a field day.



Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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he is to much of a **** sure ***** to stay in the thick of battle for long. Its the quiet ones that are the killers not the flamboyant ones who want to "see blood on their sabres". No real solider will ever talk like that NOT ONE. That reeks of a person who has trained for combat but never seen it. Combat is a horrible thing, a thing that once seen and experienced changes a person for ever. WHile it may be a rush, its not something that people cherish for ever. Its something that is turned into a "job" by the pros, much in the way a fireman treats the remains of a half burnt person, or a car crash victim. They dont go out looking for car crashes to experience them, they meerly do their job for better or worse. Same goes for a solider and sis can correct me if i am wrong on that. I have interviewed and talked to many people who have seen combat and they all tell me what i have said above. Those who look for combat as if its game either want to die or are plain stupid.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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your one to talk.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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some of you guys should be driving one of these:

http://www.theonion.com/4005/news1.html
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by psoper
Boy, I sure am glad I'm just an ignoramus, and not a brainwashed numbskull like you -at least I can still think for myself....

- if I'm not mistaken, last time I checked the people responsible for flying the planes into the WTC and Pentagon were the first ones killed by their actions that tragic day.

So you are a little too late- they're already dead.

That's the pisser about getting people so pissed off at you that they resort to suicide bombings, no one's left to prosecute except the innocent, but don't let that get in your way.... it doesn't slow down the Likudniks-


Hey Andy you know what?- why don't you go over to that uranium stewn wasteland that's been created in the cradle of civilization with my tax money, take your saber and have a field day.




First of all, the terrorists did the WTC attack in the name of Islam so there was plenty of non-innocent people to blame for that tragic event. People like Osama bin laden and his higher chain of command. Did you think a couple guys got a hair up their *** one day and decided to learn to fly, then flew that plane into a building because they were "pissed off"? Why go through the trouble in the first place? why not just kill a few americans and call it a day? Instead they wanted something much bigger in the public eye so Osma convinced these members of the Taliban to carry out these events in the name of islam. Why do the job yourself when you're powerful enough to convince a bunch of radicals to do it for you.


Secondly, you make it seem like the military/government gives a rat's *** about your tax money. sorry to burst your bubble but that's just another lame excuse to not serve your country and a way to make you and others feel better for not doing so. You convince yourself that you're doing your part because the IRS is forcing you to pay income tax. Would you join the military if the IRS wasn't watching over your shoulder making sure you filed your taxes sir? I highly doubt it...
If you died tomorrow in a car accident Uncle Sam wouldn't send a card to your survivors saying, "he was truly the backbone to the military budget and this is a great loss". Instead some PVT sitting on the toilet will say, "damn im almost out of toilet paper...if only psoper was still alive and his tax dollars were at work!"

Servicemen and women have to pick up your slack in good times and bad times so you should be greatful they're doing a job you never had the ***** to do. I sure as hell am proud of them AND all my dead buddies (BTW my dead buddy bodycount is up to #7).

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
Saddam was the second coming of Hitler, and he was ignoring international sanctions.
This is where you are wrong and fear dominates instead of reason.

Hitler was loved by his people. Hitler was worshipped by his people. He loved his Germany and his people loved him for it. He had a vision for his people. He believed they were bornt to rule the Earth. Much of the German Church even considered him to be a Christian prophet, no exaggeration! (And Hitler persecuted the Christians who didn't). He was worshipped by women who fainted in sheer excitement at his rallies 30 years before the Beatles were doing it When Hitler met his end, he was in the center of his physical powerbase, his fanatic followers being mowed down by allied forces in protection of their Fuhrer, right down to the last personal guard and child soldiers outside his bunker.

Hussein, on the other hand, was a two bit dictator that was feared by even those closest to him. That's why he ended up in a hole in a backwater town. His only allies were other selfish and power hungry men with no true loyalty and no dream for glory and country, just personal wealth and gain.

You can't fear Hussein as another Hitler. In the end, even if by his own natural death, his regime would die and he would be forgotten. I would wager that if he had died from internal strife or natural causes, civil war would've broken out between Bath Part officials and/or military generals. Not much to fear from the outside.


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Originally posted by BADWRX
It was bad intelligence. Nobody lied to anybody...you communist *******s. Since Bush is at the top, he is where the accountability chain stops. .
Yeah that's right. The head of the CIA doesn't need to be fire. If the buck stops at Bush... then Bush should be fired. Thanx for pointing that out No president has ever made such a life-altering decision based upon such bad information. Thousands of people have died as a direct result of the president's actions based upon information he erroneously trusted.... and still, I think he just didn't know. He was so sure he'd find WMD... and was wrong. And now he's passing the buck. Yea, sure, I know, Saddam killed even more, of ihis own people. But that doesn't change or justify starting a war based upon erroneous information. Bush didn't have any facts. He didn't have proof. If he had actual proof, then we would find WDM. Make sense? He was either assuming, or lying or lied to. If the information was right, the WDM would be there.

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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WDM is like a windows driver, dude.
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OK Sisq- screw my tax money, forget about that part of it-

forget about the fact that we are the only country in the world using depleted uranium munitions which has a half-life measured in thousands of years, and is already killing your compatriots from their exposure in the first Gulf war by the thousand.

forget that in addition to the handful of Taliban and AlQeuda that we might have buried in Afghanistan, we have also killed and maimed tens of thousands of innocent civilians in an effort to "liberate them"

Forget even that hundreds of billions of dollars will line the pockets of corporate executives tied to the White House-

Man, wake up and smell the funeral flowers, It's your friends blood, it could be Andy's blood, it could be yours- 7 so far? how high does the count need to go before this all becomes clear?

it's their limbs getting splattered around, and its their lives getting destroyed by this insane policy of blind, racist, ruthless agression against these other countries, without international support and without justification.

Which if you would do just a little research you would find is being completely made up and pushed by people like Richard Pearle, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.

War has GOT to be an absolute last resort, unjust use of military force only serves to breed hatred and in turn terror; plain and simple.

I'd go so far as to say that none of our recent actions in foreign countries are making us any safer here at home, its just making these *******s a lot richer.

The more we as a nation put up with these creeps and their twisted world views, the more brutality we deal out, the more we can expect back, and if this country doesn't wake up to that fact really soon, we will- all of us as a nation, be destined to the same fate as all previous failed empires.

I respect the hell out of all of you guys that served in uniform, I made some life choices, some of which at times I regret, that prevented me from doing so, but you can bet your *** that if a situation arose where I felt our country was threatened I would do anything and everything in my power to defend it.

Right now, I believe very strongly that the biggest threat to our nation is the corrupt corporate/fundamentalist/reactionaries that have taken over our media, both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court, not to mention the frat boy in the white house
God help us all if their will be done.

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