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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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All this talk about the willingness to threaten violence and how readily accessible your firearms are makes me nervous. Have you ever considered that, what I describe as flaunting, your capacity for violence and lethal harm scares the **** out of me and probably other people? I mean, really, why? What's it for? What's the point?
really it just comes down to the right to self defense. Its not about having to be a bad ***, or that I am "flaunting" it. I am strictly saying that if someone stops in the middle of the road in front of you, gets out of their car, and starts for your car, they are a HUGE potential threat. Many people have been murdered in just such cases, its called road rage.

I would have a question, why would my right to defend myself scare you? Its to your benefit too that I carry. Were you a victim, being attacked/robbed and I was the one pulling up to the scene. I would draw and defend you just as I would myself. Guns my friend are nothing to be scared of, they are just a tool...like a hammer, or a knife, or a screwdriver...or a Subaru

Unfortunately this world is a violent and dangerous place. CA is one of the worst because of the prevailing attitudes of "peace and love" that let the wolves have their pick of the sheep. Our murder rates are thru the roof, our violent crime rates have us in the top 10 states and climbing fast. In fact we have jumped up quite a bit on the list only in the last 10 years.

As I said, I am not going to just whip out my gun and open fire on someone, but...someone in the senerio we have spoke of, is a threat to life. I as a citizen have no way to know what his/her intent is. So I am going to do what I can to defend myself, if this means just reversing out of there great, if this means having to get out, put my hand on my weapon and order them to leave, fantastic. If it means having to take the horrible and unthinkable step of drawing my weapon in defense and ending a life...I will do that, not with glee, but with determination.

If I ever have to draw my weapon and use it, will I be happy, no. Will I even be the same person I was the moment before it happened...I am not sure, but I doubt it. The taking of another life is not something to look forward to. I pray to whatever gods exist in the universe that I never have to do it, but if I have a choice between taking a assailant/criminals life, or watching my own/a Innocent life taken...I will take the right path.

I don't share this with most folk, its not something to be "proud" of, but I have fired at a person before. Many many years back I was forced to open fire at a criminal in my home attempting to rob me. I won't get into the details openly, your welcome to ask me in person where we can talk eye to eye about it...but it was and still is the single most scary, and life altering moment in my life.

And yes this is all but hey, we have a open dialog here where people are expressing their views (well other than one libtard troll). Any exchange of ideals and views should not be quashed, as it helps us all learn more about each other, and in that light about ourselves.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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^ wow
Why the sad banana my friend?
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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I would have a question, why would my right to defend myself scare you?
"An irrational fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

-Sigmund Freud
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lurk
"An irrational fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

-Sigmund Freud
Eh...Freud was a quack.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
I would have a question, why would my right to defend myself scare you?
I cannot speak for others. I usually try to stay out of this crap since the results are ALWAYS predictable. I clicked on this thread - because I was a little bored, and thought it would be amusing. In this case though, it's just depressing, far more than a sad banana can express.

"Your right to defend yourself" does not and should not scare anyone, but that is MILES away from what you are talking about. Also, some of the confusion might arise from an issue that you may not even be aware of - and this is the conflicting tone of your online persona and your stories.

You paint yourself as a sort of gigantic gay rambo who will straight up purposely kill that soccer mom who accidentally cuts you off, as well as this bad-*** that no one would dare drive slow in front of since they automatically know at the sight of your bumper that you will ram them to their death. Yet, someone walking toward you paralyzes you with fear to the point that you need to get out your gun.

You didn't say it that way, you said you would "put two in the chest" of someone who were approaching you, but the reality of the situation would be much different. You claim to keep your pistol unloaded, and your rounds in your locked glovebox. I personally am no weapons expert, however I doubt that even with practice I could: turn off my ignition, remove keys, unlock glovebox, retrieve box of ammo, open box, release mag, hand-load rounds, insert mag and be ready to fire by the time the person made it to whatever point would be so scary I would need a gun.

I am not a big guy, not super skilled with ninja skills or any of that. I live in this same world that you do, yet I have been able to move myself and my loved ones away from any dangerous situations that have crept up, to my knowledge, thus far. Of course I would never say never, but the last time I lived in fear to the point that I felt I needed weapons on my person - sucked ***. I didn't like it, so I worked to change it - successfully. Yes, that probably instantly labels me as whatever crap you were trying to call Spoolin415 but what YOU don't realize is that - you don't sound awesome - you sound like you are paralyzed by your own fear of every random person out there among many other things, combined with openly speaking of carrying weapons in public with intent to kill others that you determined have snubbed or crossed you in some way.

I have only had it happen once where someone got out of their car and came at me. This guy was much larger than me and incredibly angry. I do not know what would have happened if he did more than simply yell/scream/punch my window but the thought of getting out a gun and trying to load it while this man was there??????? It doesn't take a weapons expert to know that a scenario like that just doesn't make sense - so why do YOU think it does after telling us how much you know about guns, laws and everything in between?

Originally Posted by Overbear
Its to your benefit too that I carry. Were you a victim, being attacked/robbed and I was the one pulling up to the scene. I would draw and defend you just as I would myself.
Now THAT is scary. It is flatly not to anyone's benefit that you carry, nor would I appreciate being at the whim of your split-second, knowledge-free decisions on who to kill (after you retrieved and loaded your weapon of course).

Originally Posted by Overbear
Guns my friend are nothing to be scared of, they are just a tool...like a hammer, or a knife, or a screwdriver...or a Subaru
Here is another MAJOR MAJOR inconsistency. Yes, guns are tools but they DEMAND respect. I have been around, operated and serviced guns since I could hold one and EVERY single person who had guns or was regularly involved with them put this across.

Originally Posted by Overbear
Unfortunately this world is a violent and dangerous place. CA is one of the worst because of the prevailing attitudes of "peace and love" that let the wolves have their pick of the sheep. Our murder rates are thru the roof, our violent crime rates have us in the top 10 states and climbing fast. In fact we have jumped up quite a bit on the list only in the last 10 years.

As I said, I am not going to just whip out my gun and open fire on someone, but...someone in the senerio we have spoke of, is a threat to life. I as a citizen have no way to know what his/her intent is. So I am going to do what I can to defend myself, if this means just reversing out of there great, if this means having to get out, put my hand on my weapon and order them to leave, fantastic. If it means having to take the horrible and unthinkable step of drawing my weapon in defense and ending a life...I will do that, not with glee, but with determination.

If I ever have to draw my weapon and use it, will I be happy, no. Will I even be the same person I was the moment before it happened...I am not sure, but I doubt it. The taking of another life is not something to look forward to. I pray to whatever gods exist in the universe that I never have to do it, but if I have a choice between taking a assailant/criminals life, or watching my own/a Innocent life taken...I will take the right path.

I don't share this with most folk, its not something to be "proud" of, but I have fired at a person before. Many many years back I was forced to open fire at a criminal in my home attempting to rob me. I won't get into the details openly, your welcome to ask me in person where we can talk eye to eye about it...but it was and still is the single most scary, and life altering moment in my life.

And yes this is all but hey, we have a open dialog here where people are expressing their views (well other than one libtard troll). Any exchange of ideals and views should not be quashed, as it helps us all learn more about each other, and in that light about ourselves.
Exchange of ideals and views should never be quashed - I agree. The thing is, if someone disagrees with you, they are quickly categorized and labeled so... Practice what you preach?? It sounds like you have some pretty nutty stories and have been through some crazy experiences. Personally I would rather hear all about that than cause you any harm no matter what happens. It's just that this talk of killing or purposely harming people that cause you inconvenience on the road combined with the "hard ***" talk that frankly doesn't make sense, has left the bounds of exchanging ideals - even before the labeling of people that disagree with you or find confusion in your tales of angst.

All of this of course is just my opinion, and just as valid or in-valid as anyone else - but most importantly - worth what you paid for it.

Also wanted to note that I am not in fear of guns as was said to someone else. In fact, I was just at Reed's introducing my wife to weapons and handling (from Europe, skeered of guns after growing up where they are illegal). I used a Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special, which is a stellar peice, and got an HK 9mm for the lady. She did great, and now would know what do to if she had a pistol in her hand and needed to use it. Pretty much every kid in my family above age 10 knows how to handle a gun, and knows how to respect them. My 10 yr old nephew just went for his training a couple months ago with an ex CIA weapons fellow who is a family friend. It's not fear, it's respect, and it's pretty damn important, IMHO.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Hehe gay rambo, I like that :P
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Hehe gay rambo, I like that :P
LOL good, as I didn't intend to offend. You could shorten it and be known as "grambo" or "flambo" or something, get a "grambo on board" sign, I dunno. My deaf lesbian truck-driving sister thought it was funny.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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LOL good, as I didn't intend to offend. You could shorten it and be known as "grambo" or "flambo" or something, get a "grambo on board" sign, I dunno. My deaf lesbian truck-driving sister thought it was funny.
Its all good dude, Unless someone is seriously in my face calling me a "****ing ***got" or somthing, I laugh at most "gay" jokes...To quote a comedian...


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LO****ingL@gay Rambo.

That made this retarded thread worth reading.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Firstly, if you need to carry a gun to defend yourself while driving your car, you need to move to a different city/area.

Secondly, who gets out of a car to discuss bad driving? Do you really have nothing better to do than to pick a fight on the freeway?
-If the Driver A is crazy enough to stop on a moving road/freeway to talk to Driver B, Driver B should just honk drive past him.

-If Driver B stops and waits for Driver A to get all the way to his car and talk, he's dumb also. Both sides deserve to be run over so that they don't spread any more bad driving/inpatient genes.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
LOL good, as I didn't intend to offend. You could shorten it and be known as "grambo" or "flambo" or something, get a "grambo on board" sign, I dunno. My deaf lesbian truck-driving sister thought it was funny.


Thats ****ed up.
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Originally Posted by Spoolin415
LO****ingL@gay Rambo.

That made this retarded thread worth reading.
Thanks dude. You suck. LOLZ



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