You rascally Democrats sure are sore losers.
Look (www.democraticunderground.com/) at all the fuss you're making about "voter fraud".
Monkeynutz
11-03-2004, 08:30 AM
What about the whole "My electronic voting machine told me that I voted for Bush when I clearly selected Kerry" thing that's going on in FL. Knew that was coming, thank you diebold. I understand that people could just say crap, but there is no way to check it! open fooking source!
psoper
11-03-2004, 08:37 AM
I'm not a democrat, but I have to agree with those that think some very suspicious things happened again yesterday.
I really do not believe that there are that many completely STUPID people in this country- and yes, I do think that voting for Bush means a person is TOTALLY STUPID.
I have far more reason to suspect vote fraud than I do to trust that the vote went fairly and honestly.
And if you STUPID people don't agree with me, I really don't care, becasue you are STUPID.
Unregistered
11-03-2004, 08:41 AM
Shrug, well see what happens. Im ready to conceed to the religious right and the powers that be. GO NEO-CONSERVATIVES!!!!!!!!
Side note what happened to college student vote?! sigh....
MVWRX
11-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Side note what happened to college student vote?! sigh....
Exactly. WTF. If I hear ANYONE complain about Bush who's close to my age and didn't vote, I might not have the self-control to keep myself from killing them right there on the spot.
sloppyjoe
11-03-2004, 12:27 PM
I'm not a democrat, but I have to agree with those that think some very suspicious things happened again yesterday.
I really do not believe that there are that many completely STUPID people in this country- and yes, I do think that voting for Bush means a person is TOTALLY STUPID.
I have far more reason to suspect vote fraud than I do to trust that the vote went fairly and honestly.
And if you STUPID people don't agree with me, I really don't care, becasue you are STUPID.
I think you need a thesaurus-- STUPID!
Salty
11-03-2004, 12:51 PM
I'm not a democrat, but I have to agree with those that think some very suspicious things happened again yesterday.
I really do not believe that there are that many completely STUPID people in this country- and yes, I do think that voting for Bush means a person is TOTALLY STUPID.
I have far more reason to suspect vote fraud than I do to trust that the vote went fairly and honestly.
And if you STUPID people don't agree with me, I really don't care, becasue you are STUPID.
You may not be a Democrat but you're far worse... you're an ELITIST (see I can use caps to make a point too). It kills you to see the good ol’ boy get reelected for another 4yrs, doesn't it psoper?
psoper
11-03-2004, 01:48 PM
You may not be a Democrat but you're far worse... you're an ELITIST (see I can use caps to make a point too). It kills you to see the good ol’ boy get reelected for another 4yrs, doesn't it psoper?
Yeah OK, so I'm an elitist, better than being an idiot.
No, but it does piss me off to see his gang of thugs steal a second election.
Salty
11-03-2004, 01:55 PM
No, but it does piss me off to see his gang of thugs steal a second election.
I would have to agree if you meant "landside victory" = "stealing a second election."
If not, please give me proof that Bush stole the election besides blackboxing the votes :lameattempt:. If the blackboxing votes was ever an issue Kerry would have already given his concession speech.
bassplayrr
11-03-2004, 03:06 PM
I would have to agree if you meant "landside victory" = "stealing a second election."
If not, please give me proof that Bush stole the election besides blackboxing the votes :lameattempt:. If the blackboxing votes was ever an issue Kerry would have already given his concession speech.
I think you defenition of "landslide" is greatly misguided.
-Chris
EricDaRed81
11-03-2004, 03:11 PM
I think you defenition of "landslide" is greatly misguided.
It wasn't a landslide by the electoral college but if you cosider a few million on the popular vote then landslide is pretty close.
Salty
11-03-2004, 07:24 PM
I think you defenition of "landslide" is greatly misguided.
-Chris
The landslide in the popular vote, what so many liberal Americans claimed gave Gore the throne last year, was astronomical. I was just covering that base seeing how the popular vote never mattered then or now.
See this thread for details: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78333
bassplayrr
11-03-2004, 09:08 PM
It wasn't a landslide by the electoral college but if you cosider a few million on the popular vote then landslide is pretty close.
I suppose it depends on how lienent you guys are with the term 'landslide.' I personally don't consider 3.5 Mil in the pop. vote and 22 in the electoral college to be a landslide by any stretch of the imagination. It's just silly. A barely 3% win is no landslide in any logical person. MAYBE Clinton v. Dole, maybe. Clinton beat Dole 47.5 Mil to 39 Mil., about 10%. Now that's getting to 'landslide' status. The only true landslide I can think of in relatively modern history was Roosevelt v. Hoover... Roosevelt beat Hoover with 472 to 59 electoral votes. Now that's a landslide. 3% = a landslide? It's laughable.
-Chris
subaruguru
11-03-2004, 09:17 PM
The real landslide is in turnout....a huge number of people voted, and Bush came up in votes significantly over last time. Kerry blew it, plain and simple. And he was blowing it from day one, which everyone knew at one time...back when he was almost last in the primary polls. Somehow people got behind him, but that's still a mystery to me.
I want to say something about stealing: How on earth do you manufacture nearly four million fraudulent votes without leaving something behind? That is a HUGE number of votes, percentages aside.
psoper
11-03-2004, 09:59 PM
I want to say something about stealing: How on earth do you manufacture nearly four million fraudulent votes without leaving something behind? That is a HUGE number of votes, percentages aside.
By the manufacturers designing back doors into the software that tabulates votes from machines without paper trails, that's how.
By programming intentional bugs into the machines that change the votes on just enough electronic records to skew the results.
By telling minority voters to vote on Wednesday.
By failing to turn in registrations for who knows how many thousands of people because they registered as democrats.
Their playlist is long, and from what I've heard, every trick in the book was pulled last night.
Just a peek into the shenanigans in Ohio;
http://www.accuracy.org/press_releases/PR110304.htm
A few thousand here a couple tens of thousand there, and it adds up pretty fast.
But there's nothing to see here, the giant douche has conceded.
Salty
11-04-2004, 10:01 AM
But there's nothing to see here, the giant douche has conceded.
You're right... there is nothing to see here.
The giant douche conceded because he just so happens to be in the know with his numerous high-paid advisors. You're living in a fantasy world because it allows you accept defeat.
A blackbox conspiracy may have been effective for a handful of voters just like a secret is kept among 4-5 gossiping women. Now tell that very same secret to the ~3,500.000 popular voters & ~100,000 pollsters (guess) and see if it flies. There's not a snowball's chance in hell it could have lasted an hour and Kerry knew this.
If this wasn’t the case do you think Edwards-- the man that promised every vote to be counted in OH for the American people--would have let this slip through the cracks? Please!
psoper
11-05-2004, 09:18 AM
You guys wouldn't know vote fraud if it hit you over the head.
And I include John Kerry and his pansy advisors in that.
'cause it did this last week- and you are all totally in denial.
just one instance of what probably happened all over the midwest.
See for yourself- exit polls taken where paper ballots were used were accurate to within a percentage point or two, electronic voting areas showed radically different results.
just one instance of what probably happened all over the midwest.
See for yourself- exit polls taken where paper ballots were used were accurate to within a percentage point or two, electronic voting areas showed radically different results.
Seeing how there's really no convincing you that Bush is the legitimate President and voting fraud is hard to avoid because of checks and balances across the nation for one major evening... I want you to tally-up ALL the blackboxed votes and see what the difference in electoral votes is. Hell, throw in popular votes for good measure while your at it and get back to me with the winner of both. I hope you can manage to pull ~200,000 OH votes out of your ass! Kthxkbye!
psoper
11-07-2004, 11:58 AM
You're right, there is no convincing me that W is the legitimate POTUS.
And even if he were ever elected by a fair vote (which he has not been) the criminal policies he has ordered and his administration has carried out are enough to have him convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity just about anywhere in the world.
This election was so rigged.....
What "checks and balances" are there on these machines?
By the way the whole landside thing is full of it. 3% is not a landside vote. But good try. And don't believe me go look up the margins of past elections....
FUNKED1
11-07-2004, 01:58 PM
By the manufacturers designing back doors into the software that tabulates votes from machines without paper trails, that's how.
By programming intentional bugs into the machines that change the votes on just enough electronic records to skew the results.
By telling minority voters to vote on Wednesday.
By failing to turn in registrations for who knows how many thousands of people because they registered as democrats.
Their playlist is long, and from what I've heard, every trick in the book was pulled last night.
Just a peek into the shenanigans in Ohio;
http://www.accuracy.org/press_releases/PR110304.htm
A few thousand here a couple tens of thousand there, and it adds up pretty fast.
hhahahahha, please tell me you're not trying to fit bush into the categories of crimes tried at nuremberg.
And the bill of rights...yeah, that's the issue. I just think your "fake vote" stats are 100 percent bs, gleaned from a rumor mill website instead of a credible source. No problem I can see with the constitution and the election.
As for war crimes.....HAHAHAHA, that's all I can do right now. If you'd like to name the crimes, then I can increase the font on the laughing after I explain why you're way off.
deyes
11-08-2004, 12:16 PM
By telling minority voters to vote on Wednesday.
Are you talking about that article in the Onion? I heard an interview with those guys on the Radio, they said they felt sorry for anyone that believed their articles.
psoper
11-08-2004, 02:13 PM
Are you talking about that article in the Onion? I heard an interview with those guys on the Radio, they said they felt sorry for anyone that believed their articles.
I have heard that there actually were calls going out in Michegan and Ohio specifically targetting lower income areas that did just that.
It was funny in the Onion, it's pretty pathetic, criminal actually- in real life though.
deyes
11-08-2004, 02:26 PM
I hear a lot of BS but I try not confuse it with reality. If an organized criminal campaign to defraud voters in that way was actually perpetrated I think the liberal media would have made one hell of a stink about it. Its possible though, but I doubt that G Dub or the Repuplican party sanctioned that activity. The only ones to blame in that case are the ones making the calls.
Unregistered
11-08-2004, 03:03 PM
Again with the liberal media comment. Who OWNS the media? Stop saying things that are not true....
dub2w
11-08-2004, 03:08 PM
Yeah, but the further we promote the lie that the media has a liberal slant the more we can look at incredulous venues such as Fox news and claim that they are moderately centric
deyes
11-08-2004, 03:09 PM
Stop saying things that are not true....
You first. :p
Seriously though, nearly every news program I watch puts a liberal spin on things, on the radio, on the internet even in popular music.
dub2w
11-08-2004, 03:27 PM
Turn off NPR if you dont want liberal spin. Everyone either rides the fence or has been knocked into the side of Rove and Co., Inc
deyes
11-08-2004, 03:32 PM
NPR is only the tip of that iceberg, they just stand out in my opinion because they are government funded .
Unregistered
11-08-2004, 04:25 PM
The media is owned by the right. Thats why I stated that. Don't you remember the sinclare (spelling?) group deal. My sister works with the media almost daily and can attest to that. (Well we do live in Texas though.) The most "unbiased" media is proably the papers since they show who they stand for upfront.
Also to help psoper, I have to agree that elections did not go smoothly. I ran across this on slashdot... http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/04/11/08/1910250.shtml?tid=103&tid=219 Either way this is very intresting no matter which candiate you support.
subaruguru
11-08-2004, 08:07 PM
What actually happened, straight from my inside sources, is...
OLMEK's dad used his connection to the NSA's super satellite to zap all the voting machines into recording extra pro-war Bush votes, so that he can get a chance (under the new draft) to go to Iraq and behead some more captives, along with his buddy Nick Berg, who's actually the masked man in all the other beheading videos now that he's done playing the victim in his faked-death video.
Salty
11-08-2004, 08:09 PM
What actually happened, straight from my inside sources, is...
OLMEK's dad used his connection to the NSA's super satellite to zap all the voting machines into recording extra pro-war Bush votes, so that he can get a chance (under the new draft) to go to Iraq and behead some more captives, along with his buddy Nick Berg, who's actually the masked man in all the other beheading videos now that he's done playing the victim in his faked-death video.
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Paul@dbtuned
11-08-2004, 10:19 PM
I have heard that there actually were calls going out in Michegan and Ohio specifically targetting lower income areas that did just that.
It was funny in the Onion, it's pretty pathetic, criminal actually- in real life though.
It is common knowledge that the first Tuesday of Nov is Voting Day, which this year happened to be the 2nd.
People that were duped into voting on Wednesday, Nov 3 are too ****ing stupid & shouldn't be allowed to vote!!