Moderators or whom it may concern,
I respectfully ask if there has ever been any talk about creating a Central Valley forum? Has anyone ever mentioned creating one? I am in the Oakdale/Modesto/Ceres area and the fact that Stockton and Modesto usually seem to gravitate to Sac area threads is a bit difficult. I was previously in the Sac/Davis area during college which made it easy to stay involved in i-club. Moving back to the valley, though, has made it difficult as attending UCKK meets and whatnot is just too far.
I believe if we had our own forum it would help i-club by giving Central Valley Impreza owners our own place to organize meets, installs, and a central forum for buying and selling.
Secondly, I get sick of hearing anyone in this area with an Impreza talk about Nasioc and would much rather have i-club as the top online forum in the area:RockOn - not mine:

I am completely open to any constructive criticism.
-Brian

Thanks for putting my thread in the right place : )

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I think no central-valley-ens are responding cuz they're don't know this thread is here :lol:

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I think no central-valley-ens are responding cuz they're don't know this thread is here :lol:

also because your odds of having a person from Stockton that doesn't hang in SRiC seeing the thread are pretty low. Technically speaking Sacramento and Davis in "the central valley" as it does stretch from Shasta County all the way down to Kern county.

if central valley people already congregate in SRiC whats the problem? people have a Turlock and redding meet thread going... it just seems unnecessary to me to create a new forum for a small number of people that already congregate in a populated section forum.

so like a fresno modesto and merced?

that would not be a bad idea i know of about 30 ppl that live down here with subys.. but it is kinda hard to organize anything cuz none of us really know where would be the right place to put out meets info

that would not be a bad idea i know of about 30 ppl that live down here with subys.. but it is kinda hard to organize anything cuz none of us really know where would be the right place to put out meets info

make a thread for the locals, PM all the locals with a link to the thread. We had a Santa Cruz/Monterey thread going for a long time. It was just organization for the local meet(s) and hanging out organization.

I think the lack of a central valley/central CA forum stems from the fact that the area is so spread out that one forum would cover too much of an area and multiple forums would be too confusing/pointless. If you REALLY want a forum for all the locals, why don't you all pitch in money and make a local website?

Hi All,
I've been absent from my thread as I've been dealing (figures) with car issues as of late as well as moving into a new place.

Either way,
While I can see the above points suggesting that we just keep posting in Sac forums, this is exactly the reason I believe we need our own forum. As 'vrroompsh' stated...it is confusing for Valley Impreza enthusiasts to know where to post. Whereas alot of Sac guys assume we should post in their forum, I also know many Tracy/Manteca people that post in BAIC. Valley people could still post in other forums but I believe having a forum where Modesto, Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, and Foothill people can post would help us organize our own meets, installs and aftermarket trading center.
In a response to mBasile. Where you mentioned that we could pool money together to create our own website I will...as kindly as I can...have to say that this idea seems somewhat unfair. I do agree that there could be a problem with vagueness associated with a 'central valley thread,' but I would rather give it a shot than continue the confusion that many central valley impreza owners deal with. I love i-club and I love all of the connections I have attained through it. I do not want to create another site, but instead want to help the central valley out ON i-club.
Secondly, I respectfully have to disagree with the suggestion of simply creating more and more Central Valley threads. If someone that was active in Sacramento or San Francisco was suggested this, they would laugh at the matter. Multiple Central Valley threads across different forums does not encourage cohesion, but rather- confusion.
To respond to Sigma Pi: I am in the Modesto area. Anyone I know personally that has expressed interest in having a central valley forum is either in the Modesto or Stockton areas. I cannot speak for Fresno...and where I cannot leave Fresno out of the central valley, most of the people I have talked to are from Manteca, Tracy, Modesto, Stockton (Fresno being 2 hours South of these cities.
I look forward to any criticism, comments, etc.
-Brian

I want to reiterate that this thread is Not an attack or flame on the way i-club is now. I-club is what got me started in the Impreza community in the first place for which I am thankful. This is a light-hearted thread and I hope to keep it constructive and positive : )
I simply believe a Central Valley Forum would IMPROVE i-club in allowing it to reach out to and organize a growing number of Central Valley Impreza owners. Heck, we even have two Subaru dealerships over here people!:lol:

Thanks,
Brian

a local forum actually helped us out a lot down here and it was in addition to us posting on i-club. I also didn't say to creat multiple Central Valley threads, I said to create one (I'll see if I can dig up the Santa Cruz/Monterey one we had for an example). Down here in Monterey we're out of the loop too. San Francisco is almost 2 hours away and San Jose is an hour, so we're in no man's land, but there are ways to make it work

oh, and if you get them to make a central valley thread, why not a central coast thread for monterey, salinas, santa cruz, watsonville and so on?

bakersfield too

I want to reiterate that this thread is Not an attack or flame on the way i-club is now. I-club is what got me started in the Impreza community in the first place for which I am thankful. This is a light-hearted thread and I hope to keep it constructive and positive : )
I simply believe a Central Valley Forum would IMPROVE i-club in allowing it to reach out to and organize a growing number of Central Valley Impreza owners. Heck, we even have two Subaru dealerships over here people!:lol:

Thanks,
Brian
:lol:

yeah i get that its a suggestion to make it better

I think it would be a great Idea Brian. Hopefully it may come into consideration. Would really be helpful to us in the Stockton/Modesto/Manteca/Oakdale/Merced Area ETC...!! =)

MBasile,
Excellent point on there being other semi-populated California regions in addition to the central valley such as your Monterey area. However, I guess what I'm asking is what would be wrong with creating a couple more forums?
Have a Central Valley Forum, have a Monterey area forum....I really don't think the addition of forums would create a landslide affect. Is there a fear that I am missing? Maybe one that adding two or three more area forums would make i-club too cluttered?
I mean, heck, look at the Puerto Rico and Alaska Forums! No offense to them, but I guarantee if the Central Valley got it's own forum we'd have more threads and posts in a week than they've had in their entire i-club history. So why not just give us a shot and see if we can help make the i-club community stronger in our areas?
Welcoming comments as usual : )
-Brian
Oakdale, California
(We had the Hershey factory until Hershey went to Mexico)

What we are trying to do on this forum is to bring it back to a national level. What we are seeing is more participation happening in the regional and the other areas of the site being neglected. The other issue is adding more and more sections within a specific region really starts to create more sparation.

Also you mentioned: "Secondly, I get sick of hearing anyone in this area with an Impreza talk about Nasioc and would much rather have i-club as the top online forum in the area"

The reason why Nasioc is talked more about is because they have more forum participation happening through the entire site. To be honest I-Club has a lot of separation between its members within specific regions that really exclude others from other areas. Bottom line is I think if there were more participation happening throughout the forum then adding a new section wouldn't be a big deal.

nice to see some more of us from the oakdale/modesto area getting involved in this thread

Ryan
06 wingless Impreza.. or is it wrx..lol

im forit as im in angels camp, and sac thread is too far from me so a central valley thread would be a hell of a lot closer!

How about just re-naming Sac and Reno "Central Valley" or Sac/Central Valley. Reno could split off and be the "Nevada" thread.:happy:

How about just re-naming Sac and Reno "Central Valley" or Sac/Central Valley. Reno could split off and be the "Nevada" thread.:happy:

The Reno guys abandoned us anyway. The only two left are both moderators. :o

we need a central valley area...sac is hella far from us... the bay area is closer to us then sac is!

SPT,
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase:happy:
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California

Tracy +1 right here!

ok brian just about sumd it up.....well he actually owned it!

SPT,
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase:happy:
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California
It's not that I'm looking for more membership or trying to increase in size. I'm just looking for more participation as a site in general. To me it seems like there is a lot of separation here between the regions and it doesn't seem like as a site everyone is talking to each other (very clickish). For example if a person signs up on the site and lives in NY, how will they ever begin to start a dialog with any other users when most are doing all of their communication in a specific region. What it does it divides everyone into their regions and the amount of interaction outside of the specific region starts to die off. To me that's a shame because I know most of the users here have a lot of great things to share to the entire community but not everyone gets to see it because it's happening in a specific region only.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for creating regional sections so people that live in the same area can communicate. Not to mention having the ability to setup meets and organize events. We just have to remember that I-Club is a National site, which means a main goal of general site interaction should be going on first and then having spill over going on within a specific region. Having general site participation proves to have more benefit because it not only reduces the amount of repetitive questions and subjects, but it helps organize information so more people can find it easier.

we need a central valley area...sac is hella far from us... the bay area is closer to us then sac is!

very true

:noidea: very true

thank u!!

i mean...sacramento is roughly 2 hours from my house, when the east bay is only and hour and a half....so im most likely gunna post in the bay area forums than the sac forum, but the bay area guys tell me to leave...and if i post in the sac forums, they tell me to leave, cause i am not in the "sac" area!!

so we need to either change the name of the sac forums to central california, or get a section of our own!:biggrin1: :)

In no way am I trying to choose sides, but I am leaning towards attaining cv forums. I agree w/ both SPT and Brian, as I see see both sides valid---

Ok so we could establish the cv forums and everything would be chummy, but at the same time we run the risk of further development of separation, and suffer further site usage in the general overall scheme of things (in terms of participation goes). On the flip side, we could just not to create one, while we continue doing what we do, using bay/sac/etc. regional threads, but we'd still be lacking in our own communities etc. as we wouldn't have our own home to share ideas and thoughts. In all honesty, I think the best bet is to create a localized, or more so, a centralized web site focusing on just us, as a central group of people. However, doing so would be reflective on a new project of issues.

As far as reinforcing the site goes, I do agree, we should be doing that, and @ the same time not taking away from group participation, and other information ppl can read on their own terms, thereas, not limiting, nor partaking in anything they should or can't. As a means to not hide anything to prevent repetitive information, I believe it's sort of at it's own discretion on the OP. On a more personal level, I go to not just 1 section of the regional forums, but many. A lot of the times, I'll visit whatever happens to catch my eye.

There are a lot of things that could "eventually" happen to the site, but either we can find a way to maintain this ongoing endeavor of site participation, usage, sharing of info. etc., or we could find a way to accept that perhaps, creating a CV forum won't affect it to the level we're thinking it might be. I can also understand the fact that by having others view this, there's always risks of having more upheaval. But I suppose, that's not for me to decide. I'm just here to give my thoughts on a cv section, the good and the bad.

Quite frankly, I know I'll live through this, but atleast I thought maybe I can, atleast, try to give my .2 on the matter. I probably won't be posting in here anymore, but I'll still be watching idly, standing by. XD

We do need to do something because we do not have a general norcal regional. It should be set up as norcal with BA and SAC being subcategories leaving anyone left out to participate in norcal general region. So there does need to be something for these guys. Its just important to only use it for regional discussions and not only stick to the regionals for all your discussions

We do need to do something because we do not have a general norcal regional. It should be set up as norcal with BA and SAC being subcategories leaving anyone left out to participate in norcal general region. So there does need to be something for these guys. Its just important to only use it for regional discussions and not only stick to the regionals for all your discussions

The BAIC guys are going to flip out (again).

It's a matter of pride to them - having the BAIC on top of the regional forums, since that's where i-club was founded. If they suddenly become a sub-forum under Norcal, you'll have a riot on your hands.

My $.02

The BAIC guys are going to flip out (again).

It's a matter of pride to them - having the BAIC on top of the regional forums, since that's where i-club was founded. If they suddenly become a sub-forum under Norcal, you'll have a riot on your hands.

My $.02\

In the words of Perter on Family Guy:
"WHoa..Whoa....Whoa.....Whoa..........Whoa"
Egan, I am definitely NOT asking to create an entire Norcal region. BAIC stays as it is as the top dog of course. I love the BAIC forum as that is what initially heightened my i-club interest in the first place. Creating one giant NorCal glob would be pointless. Rather I am simply attempting to create a place where us Central Valley Folk can organize regional events, installs, etc.
I agree with SPT and lazer drops that your concern over increased regional 'cliquey-ness' is a sound issue. However, I think the number of people attracted to i-club by a created central valley forum would more than make up for this by increasing membership numbers. Gaining new members is never a bad thing; and new members would be impressioned upon immediately that posts need to be forum specific.
Bump for a Central Valley Forum, and a second Bump for continuing the push for forum specific posts.
-Brian
Now in Modesto, CA Just Moved! : )

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In the words of Perter on Family Guy:
"WHoa..Whoa....Whoa.....Whoa..........Whoa"
Egan, I am definitely NOT asking to create an entire Norcal region. BAIC stays as it is as the top dog of course. I love the BAIC forum as that is what initially heightened my i-club interest in the first place. Creating one giant NorCal glob would be pointless. Rather I am simply attempting to create a place where us Central Valley Folk can organize regional events, installs, etc.
I agree with SPT and lazer drops that your concern over increased regional 'cliquey-ness' is a sound issue. However, I think the number of people attracted to i-club by a created central valley forum would more than make up for this by increasing membership numbers. Gaining new members is never a bad thing; and new members would be impressioned upon immediately that posts need to be forum specific.
Bump for a Central Valley Forum, and a second Bump for continuing the push for forum specific posts.
-Brian
Now in Modesto, CA Just Moved! : )

I was just responding to charles' suggestion.

The BAIC guys are going to flip out (again).

It's a matter of pride to them - having the BAIC on top of the regional forums, since that's where i-club was founded. If they suddenly become a sub-forum under Norcal, you'll have a riot on your hands.

My $.02

No no...I am not saying actually reorganize it that way. Just saying thats probably how it should have been to start

There should be a bay area, sacramento, and central valley forums.

Heck if anything we had about 20 Subarus at the Turlock meet right Subydude06? And that's with inly about four of us there as a result of i-club. Imagine how many more we could get organized with our own forum :eyebrows:

we neeeeeeeeeed this forum!!:eyebrows:

please:peace:

Would be very nice ^^^

Bump for a Central Valley forum,
I do like the idea of having a Sac forum, Bay area forum, and Central Valley Forum. It just seems to make so much sense. Central Valley would indeed be a wide ranging thread I suppose officially covering Stockton down to maybe even Fresno. If anything, though, it would give us some cohesion. Bay Area obviously would not be affected, Sac has plenty of member support to keep it's forum strong without Stockton and South, and the CV forum would have such a wide basis of valley cities such as Modesto, Tracy, Sonora, Angels Camp, Manteca Turlock- to give it a nice jump start.
Bump to keep this thread active.
-Brian

Bump for this thread becoming official soon hopefully!!

bump cause we dont want the central valley kids ****ting up our forum

:p

:rofl:
Toooooooshay sir touche

douce haha jk scott

we need our own forum...please!!!!

oh and thank you!

Bump Bump For uS!!

im bumpin you off this rob

Hmm, looks like the admins did something nice for you guys.

http://www.i-club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=210

you're forum is now online.

WOOOT!! Thanks!! :)

SPT,
I posted a thank you type thread under our new central valley forum. Wasn't sure whether I should have posted that in this forum or the central valley forum. Either way I accept and expect that mods will be strict on the relevance of our posts in our new forum for central valley topic validity. At the same time there are also many of us who are excited and want to make it a point to contiune to post throughout i-club. Thank you so much for our new forum, we won't dissapoint!
-Brian

SPT,
I posted a thank you type thread under our new central valley forum. Wasn't sure whether I should have posted that in this forum or the central valley forum. Either way I accept and expect that mods will be strict on the relevance of our posts in our new forum for central valley topic validity. At the same time there are also many of us who are excited and want to make it a point to contiune to post throughout i-club. Thank you so much for our new forum, we won't dissapoint!
-Brian

NP. Use it in good health. :)

i made this request over a year ago and it finally happened. thanks again.

Paul.