SSR Comps vs OZ SL vs Volk vs ROTA
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SSR Comps vs OZ SL vs Volk vs ROTA
Hey - if you had to do it all over again, in terms of looks, price, performance, and durability which of the above would you go for?
I think I would take the Volk TE37/CE28n's because they look nice, are light and extremely durable... but gosh they are really expensive. My second choice would probably be the SSR Competitions. They are super light and just a pure performance rim. They are rather plain looking IMO, and probably 2nd most expensive. It's a tie between ROTA and OZ SL's. I would probably take the Rota's over the SL's because they are just that much cheaper, and still pretty damn light! SL's look pretty bad *** on a Scooby in anthracite but in terms of durability they are about the same.
Any other popular rims that people pick? Anyone else care to discuss?
I think I would take the Volk TE37/CE28n's because they look nice, are light and extremely durable... but gosh they are really expensive. My second choice would probably be the SSR Competitions. They are super light and just a pure performance rim. They are rather plain looking IMO, and probably 2nd most expensive. It's a tie between ROTA and OZ SL's. I would probably take the Rota's over the SL's because they are just that much cheaper, and still pretty damn light! SL's look pretty bad *** on a Scooby in anthracite but in terms of durability they are about the same.
Any other popular rims that people pick? Anyone else care to discuss?
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Re: SSR Comps vs OZ SL vs Volk vs ROTA
Originally posted by awd rally
SL's look pretty bad *** on a Scooby in anthracite but in terms of durability they are about the same.
SL's look pretty bad *** on a Scooby in anthracite but in terms of durability they are about the same.
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wow, i am surprised, i always thought the subaru community in general supported Rota...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
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Originally posted by Keisatsu
wow, i am surprised, i always thought the subaru community in general supported Rota...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
wow, i am surprised, i always thought the subaru community in general supported Rota...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
I have never seen a OZ, SSR, Rays, Prodrive or Speedline wheel break during an autocross so, your statement isn't exactly correct. You may as welll have said that the WRX is just as good as a 360 Modena Ferrari .... price does affect quality
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Originally posted by Keisatsu
wow, i am surprised, i always thought the subaru community in general supported Rota...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
wow, i am surprised, i always thought the subaru community in general supported Rota...
Rota makes a quality wheel, that cannot be disputed, just as good as OZ the only difference is that Rota does not make their own design, so what... saves me money...
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Originally posted by Luke@tirerack
I have never seen a OZ, SSR, Rays, Prodrive or Speedline wheel break during an autocross so, your statement isn't exactly correct. You may as welll have said that the WRX is just as good as a 360 Modena Ferrari .... price does affect quality
Manufacturing Process
Manufacturing processes and levels of testing are critical to a wheel's structural integrity. International quality standards such as ISO9001, QS9000, TUV of Germany or VIA of Japan, establish important production and quality standards that manufacturers must follow. In addition, dimensional tolerances based on strict, original equipment market standards versus the more “casual” standards allowed for many aftermarket products should be met. Even durability standards for finish are different between the original equipment market and the aftermarket.
Reputation and Heritage
The reputation of a manufacturer is a strong indicator of quality since it is quality upon which a distinguished reputation is built. It takes time to build a positive reputation and a commitment to maintain it is important. And know a wheel company's roots. Many wheel manufacturers first established themselves in the motorsports arena and apply that technological and philosophical foundation to their production of wheels for use on the street.
Country of Origin
Certain areas of the world bring to mind certain products and characteristics. For example, Germany is at the top in automotive technology and precision. Italy is the front-runner in design and exotic cars. Know where your wheels are manufactured.
I have never seen a OZ, SSR, Rays, Prodrive or Speedline wheel break during an autocross so, your statement isn't exactly correct. You may as welll have said that the WRX is just as good as a 360 Modena Ferrari .... price does affect quality
Manufacturing Process
Manufacturing processes and levels of testing are critical to a wheel's structural integrity. International quality standards such as ISO9001, QS9000, TUV of Germany or VIA of Japan, establish important production and quality standards that manufacturers must follow. In addition, dimensional tolerances based on strict, original equipment market standards versus the more “casual” standards allowed for many aftermarket products should be met. Even durability standards for finish are different between the original equipment market and the aftermarket.
Reputation and Heritage
The reputation of a manufacturer is a strong indicator of quality since it is quality upon which a distinguished reputation is built. It takes time to build a positive reputation and a commitment to maintain it is important. And know a wheel company's roots. Many wheel manufacturers first established themselves in the motorsports arena and apply that technological and philosophical foundation to their production of wheels for use on the street.
Country of Origin
Certain areas of the world bring to mind certain products and characteristics. For example, Germany is at the top in automotive technology and precision. Italy is the front-runner in design and exotic cars. Know where your wheels are manufactured.
Now, concerning the Rota incidents, here's the reply from one of the distributor:
There are actually three attack versions. One is the first batch of attack wheels with a cavity at the back of the spoke and one with a cavity but with a thicker spoke cross section and one without a cavity at the back of the spoke.
THe one with the cavity has been tested with the JWL/VIA standard of 505kg for 5x100 PCD. These is the standard set by the Vehicle Inspection Authority of Japan for our Subaru.
The other 2 version has been tested to 5x114.3 and 5x120 PCD and is tested to more than 690 kg per wheel . These is more than adequate for our Subaru as this is already van and light truck capable.
Contrary to what others are saying, these wheels are not poorly casted. We have gotten hold of the first attack wheel that failed and the grain structure, aluminum composition, Heat treatment properties are all OK.
The wheels have been repeatedly tested with a cornering fatigue test machine simulating continuos cornering for prolonged periods of time.
For those with the first batch of wheels produced during April 2002, if you feel uncomfortable with your wheels, we will gladly replace them with the newer batch.
The way to check is to remove your wheels and see if there is a cavity at the back of the spoke. If you have a cavity at the back of the spoke, check your casting date. If it reads A4/02 or SVP, you can ask for a replacement if you wish
We think that there is no flaw in the wheels in the first batch given that we tested them to our Suby specs and we checked all casting data. But if you feel uncomfortable with the wheels, then we will replace them.
You can contact 510 786 1726 for your replacements or e-mail me at michael_rojas@rota-wheels.com.ph for any technical questions.
The first batch are all 5x100 and with casting date A4/02 and SVP (sample production)
THe one with the cavity has been tested with the JWL/VIA standard of 505kg for 5x100 PCD. These is the standard set by the Vehicle Inspection Authority of Japan for our Subaru.
The other 2 version has been tested to 5x114.3 and 5x120 PCD and is tested to more than 690 kg per wheel . These is more than adequate for our Subaru as this is already van and light truck capable.
Contrary to what others are saying, these wheels are not poorly casted. We have gotten hold of the first attack wheel that failed and the grain structure, aluminum composition, Heat treatment properties are all OK.
The wheels have been repeatedly tested with a cornering fatigue test machine simulating continuos cornering for prolonged periods of time.
For those with the first batch of wheels produced during April 2002, if you feel uncomfortable with your wheels, we will gladly replace them with the newer batch.
The way to check is to remove your wheels and see if there is a cavity at the back of the spoke. If you have a cavity at the back of the spoke, check your casting date. If it reads A4/02 or SVP, you can ask for a replacement if you wish
We think that there is no flaw in the wheels in the first batch given that we tested them to our Suby specs and we checked all casting data. But if you feel uncomfortable with the wheels, then we will replace them.
You can contact 510 786 1726 for your replacements or e-mail me at michael_rojas@rota-wheels.com.ph for any technical questions.
The first batch are all 5x100 and with casting date A4/02 and SVP (sample production)
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Just to set the record straight.
We are QS 9000 and ISO 9001 certified. Our testing facilities are ertified by JWL/VIA.
We are OEM producers for Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Ford (which explains our QS 9000 certification).
Yes, the pictures above were from early attacks that passed JWL VIA standards for 5x100 PCD which was 505 kg. It seems that these standards are not enough for our Subaru that is why we have upgraded them to 690 kg on the second and succeding batches.
I am writing these because earlier posts implied that we are not a OEM supplier and that we do not have ISO and QS 9000 certification.
We are QS 9000 and ISO 9001 certified. Our testing facilities are ertified by JWL/VIA.
We are OEM producers for Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Ford (which explains our QS 9000 certification).
Yes, the pictures above were from early attacks that passed JWL VIA standards for 5x100 PCD which was 505 kg. It seems that these standards are not enough for our Subaru that is why we have upgraded them to 690 kg on the second and succeding batches.
I am writing these because earlier posts implied that we are not a OEM supplier and that we do not have ISO and QS 9000 certification.
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Originally posted by rota wheels wrx
Just to set the record straight.
We are QS 9000 and ISO 9001 certified. Our testing facilities are ertified by JWL/VIA.
We are OEM producers for Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Ford (which explains our QS 9000 certification).
Yes, the pictures above were from early attacks that passed JWL VIA standards for 5x100 PCD which was 505 kg. It seems that these standards are not enough for our Subaru that is why we have upgraded them to 690 kg on the second and succeding batches.
I am writing these because earlier posts implied that we are not a OEM supplier and that we do not have ISO and QS 9000 certification.
Just to set the record straight.
We are QS 9000 and ISO 9001 certified. Our testing facilities are ertified by JWL/VIA.
We are OEM producers for Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Ford (which explains our QS 9000 certification).
Yes, the pictures above were from early attacks that passed JWL VIA standards for 5x100 PCD which was 505 kg. It seems that these standards are not enough for our Subaru that is why we have upgraded them to 690 kg on the second and succeding batches.
I am writing these because earlier posts implied that we are not a OEM supplier and that we do not have ISO and QS 9000 certification.