Heavy Wheels
Guest
Posts: n/a
Heavy Wheels
Are 22 pound wheels really heavy for a WRX. I have a stock WRX that i want to put 22 pound wheels on, but I am affriad it will slow my car donw too much. Will there be a drastic change in speed or only a noticible change if you really try and pay attention?
My car came with the Cobb CT-One wheels that are 22 lbs. so I don't know how much it slowed the car down. The car is damn quick even with them. I'm getting lighter (16.5-17.5lbs) wheels mid-September, so I will be able to tell you how much quicker it is after that. Since it is rotating mass, it will probably cost you a few horsepower.
There is a rough formula for unsprung weight and it's effect on your performance. For each pound, multiply it by ten and then by four (four wheels) to see see the effect as weight added to your car. So, if you compared your wheel/car to the 12.5 lb. 17x7.5" SSR Competitions (~10lb. difference) on my car it would be 10lbs. X 10 X 4 = 400. That means, when we would race, our cars would come in equal if I had a two 200lb. friends in my car with me and you were alone in yours. It's a rough formula yes, but it gets you close.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Also don't forget about the weight of the tire as well. Since the tire weight is distributed at the outer edges of the wheel a heavy tire willl have even a greater impact on performace given the other variables are equal.
Baseline
Stock WRX Wheel = 16.5lbs
Stock WRX Tires (RE92) = 21.5lbs
Total Weight = 38lbs
Example 1
OZ Superlegga 17x7 = 16lbs
Bridgestone S03 225|45|17 = 25lbs
Total = 41lbs
Example 2
BBS RK 17x7 = 18lbs
Pilot Sport A/S 225|45|17 = 23lbs
Total = 41lbs
I would argue that option 2 is better than option one in regaurds to performance when you simply look at weight. I know I'm splitting hairs a bit but I'm looking for new tires (for the stock rims) and am going to be getting 17's in the future as well... Oh and the weights I posted are a close ballpark of reality...
I am aware that the tires in the above examples cannot be compared performace wise but the numbers were the ones I was looking for... 
Using what dexter said above, the move to 17's would in effect be like adding a ballpark of (3*10*4) 120 lbs of extra weight, which is pretty nominal in my opinion.
My $.02...
Baseline
Stock WRX Wheel = 16.5lbs
Stock WRX Tires (RE92) = 21.5lbs
Total Weight = 38lbs
Example 1
OZ Superlegga 17x7 = 16lbs
Bridgestone S03 225|45|17 = 25lbs
Total = 41lbs
Example 2
BBS RK 17x7 = 18lbs
Pilot Sport A/S 225|45|17 = 23lbs
Total = 41lbs
I would argue that option 2 is better than option one in regaurds to performance when you simply look at weight. I know I'm splitting hairs a bit but I'm looking for new tires (for the stock rims) and am going to be getting 17's in the future as well... Oh and the weights I posted are a close ballpark of reality...
I am aware that the tires in the above examples cannot be compared performace wise but the numbers were the ones I was looking for... 
Using what dexter said above, the move to 17's would in effect be like adding a ballpark of (3*10*4) 120 lbs of extra weight, which is pretty nominal in my opinion.
My $.02...
Last edited by Monkey Boy; Oct 7, 2003 at 01:46 AM.
Registered User
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,016
From: Oakland, CA
Car Info: 2009 wrx & 2000 4runner
Originally posted by Daredevil
also take into consideration the diametere of the rim
18's your slower than 16's
also take into consideration the diametere of the rim
18's your slower than 16's
To add to daredevil's thoughts, a 15lb. wheel can come in 16 or 18" diameters. The 18", though it accounts for the same amount of unsprung weight, will take more energy to start and stop spinning. This is because of the weight of the wheel being concentrated further from the center.
I have the 17" SSRs because they're rediculously lightweight, clear Brembo and other big calipers, look pretty nice, and they're rediculously lightweight. Not to mention the weight.
I have the 17" SSRs because they're rediculously lightweight, clear Brembo and other big calipers, look pretty nice, and they're rediculously lightweight. Not to mention the weight.
Originally posted by Dexter@tirerack
I have the 17" SSRs because they're rediculously lightweight, clear Brembo and other big calipers, look pretty nice, and they're rediculously lightweight. Not to mention the weight.
I have the 17" SSRs because they're rediculously lightweight, clear Brembo and other big calipers, look pretty nice, and they're rediculously lightweight. Not to mention the weight.
<--- Just jealous he can't afford them.
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,698
From: Bay Area
Car Info: 06' White GDF 18x10 Wrong Fitment Crew #001
Originally posted by wrx ish
not necessarily, if you keep the same outer diameter then it all depends on weight, getting a lightweight wheel and tire in 18s can possibly make you go faster. then a heavier 16" wheel
not necessarily, if you keep the same outer diameter then it all depends on weight, getting a lightweight wheel and tire in 18s can possibly make you go faster. then a heavier 16" wheel
hmm.. I'm not an expert in this field. but common sense is telling me that if your wheels are bigger then the engine doesn't have to spin them as fast as smaller wheels to maintain the same speed. so even tho the smaller wheels may accelerate faster thats only because they are smaller and need to spin faster.. not because your actually moving faster
make sense?
make sense?
Not Really
Originally posted by gordy
hmm.. I'm not an expert in this field. but common sense is telling me that if your wheels are bigger then the engine doesn't have to spin them as fast as smaller wheels to maintain the same speed. so even tho the smaller wheels may accelerate faster thats only because they are smaller and need to spin faster.. not because your actually moving faster
make sense?
hmm.. I'm not an expert in this field. but common sense is telling me that if your wheels are bigger then the engine doesn't have to spin them as fast as smaller wheels to maintain the same speed. so even tho the smaller wheels may accelerate faster thats only because they are smaller and need to spin faster.. not because your actually moving faster
make sense?
The easiest way to wrap your brain around this is to think if riding a 10 Speed bike. If you wanted to pop a wheelie you would shorten the gears (chain on big sprocket in front & the smallest one in the rear) so you could get the front end up (acceleration). But if you were trying to race downhill, you would lengthen the gears (chain on the smallest sprocket in front & biggest in the rear) to reach top speed.
I hope this helps.


