A follow up to the last thread
Looks like someone didn't care for that footage and shot a "counterpoint" video haha: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29&q=Muay+Thai

I'd take it with a grain of salt, once again

Original thread was https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...ight=taekwondo

 

lol everytime the taekwondo guy was gonna strike, the other dude would just chop down his legs. taekwondo has some pretty cool looking techniques, but muay thai is much more effective. i mean, look at capoeira... it looks awsome but is it an effective self defense tool?

 

It's like they say, Taekwondo sacrifices power for speed and precision (and cool looks to boot). I keep saying that with a bit of evolution, there's a lot going for TKD IMHO

 

Sorry to say but in a street fight neither is effective.

 

Neither of those guys have a clue. His hands down stance gives away the fact that he's woefully unexperienced. Red belt equals two years max. He sure caught a hot one to the left kidney though.

There are places where TKD has evolved by the way

 

what form(s) of martial arts would be more effective in a street fight?...

 

Kenpo

 

heres shaolin monk vs TKD pro.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...lin+monk+fight
notice how the shaolin monk is very loose but snaps hard.
Bruce Lee: "Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."

 

[echo]It's not the style, it's how you train.[/echo]

 

bruce lee: "the art of fighting without fighting"

 

It's the fighter and not the style

and monks are badass

 

MMA guys are always good kickboxers and boxers when on their feet, and great BJJ fighters are on the ground...no TKD.

 

It's obvious that the venue is a TKD (ITF, WTF, ect...) or Karate (non kyokushin) event, no punches to the head and the arena layout is what inclines me to speculate. Typically in these style events the only attacks to the head allowed are kicks, and points are also awarded for driving them out of the marked arena. All of the thai boxer's punches were aimed for the body (because he is only allowed to punch there). As for his hands being down, that varies from competetor to competetor (look at Chuck Liddell's gaurd). The only time I saw his (thai boxers) hands being noticably low is when he was pursing the TKD'er. IMO the kid was pretty sharp given the fact that he was playing by someone else's rules. He had good low-kick technique and chopped down his apponent.

A red belt is just below black in TKD. If you can make red belt in two years, then you're either REALLY talented, or you're attending a McDojang.

 

So what would you suggest? BJJ?

I'd say that w/o gauging a fighter, Muay Thai combined with BJJ is a pretty damn good combination IMHO

Full on Muay Thai BTW: https://www.i-club.com/forums/videos-142/buakaw-por-pramuk-thailands-kickboxing-hero-brief-classical-muay-thai-lesson-123187/ and https://www.i-club.com/forums/videos-142/muay-thai-bonanza-123190/

 

On the streets, a gun will beat all.

All these "martial arts" are practiced by people who are most inclined to use it as a "defensive" tool. And, they'll beat my *** to a pulp in a street fight.

But, most urban, malicious aggressors use guns, knives or force in numbers. Neither, muay thai, jiujitsu, nor TKD will be completely effective is this scenario.

On a side note, that TKD red belt is a joke. There are McDojos all over the country turning out prepubescent, 12 year old black belts. Some people open minimarts, liquor stores, donut shops, dry cleaners... others open dojos.