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Originally Posted by meilers
Wow, that Climb Dance movie is pretty hokey. The foley effects are terrible!
Were those cars automatic, or did the director just edit around shifts? Driving one-handed up Pike's Peak because your race manager took out the sun blinds to save weight is beyond insanity.
Here's more information about the RS200, the very last time an American car was ever competitive in rally (the Ford Focus is a European-built/spec car!)
http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_104166/article.html
Damn ugly, but F A S T
Were those cars automatic, or did the director just edit around shifts? Driving one-handed up Pike's Peak because your race manager took out the sun blinds to save weight is beyond insanity.
Here's more information about the RS200, the very last time an American car was ever competitive in rally (the Ford Focus is a European-built/spec car!)
http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_104166/article.html
Damn ugly, but F A S T
the rs 200 was an european built car too...
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Originally Posted by PJ2.5RS
Flying cars (Group B, DTCC, Paris-Dakar, F1)
http://www.streetneeds.com/uploads/...egendeAutos.wmv
http://www.streetneeds.com/uploads/...egendeAutos.wmv
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Originally Posted by meilers
Wow, that Climb Dance movie is pretty hokey. The foley effects are terrible!
Were those cars automatic, or did the director just edit around shifts? Driving one-handed up Pike's Peak because your race manager took out the sun blinds to save weight is beyond insanity.
Here's more information about the RS200, the very last time an American car was ever competitive in rally (the Ford Focus is a European-built/spec car!)
http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_104166/article.html
Damn ugly, but F A S T
Were those cars automatic, or did the director just edit around shifts? Driving one-handed up Pike's Peak because your race manager took out the sun blinds to save weight is beyond insanity.
Here's more information about the RS200, the very last time an American car was ever competitive in rally (the Ford Focus is a European-built/spec car!)
http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_104166/article.html
Damn ugly, but F A S T
uh huh....HOKEY......
hokey enough to win an award....
no edits.....he shifts....alot.....you're just dumb.
and to re-iterate....the rs200 was NEVER available stateside. the focus is WAAAYYYY closer to being an american car than rs will EVER be.
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Group B cars are the greatest rally cars ever!!! Its too bad that the safety equipment of the time lagged behind the advances they made with turbo engineering.
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Originally Posted by aholeguy
uh huh....HOKEY......
hokey enough to win an award....
hokey enough to win an award....
The hokiness, in this case, comes from the silly foley effects, especially the "sliding gravel" sound which sounds like a handful of rocks on a baking sheet; also, the nutball jazz piano doesn't say "race up a hill in a rocket with wheels" to me.
no edits.....he shifts....alot.....you're just dumb.
Watch it again for the two times that they foley the shift sound, but he doesn't actually reach for the stick.
and to re-iterate....the rs200 was NEVER available stateside. the focus is WAAAYYYY closer to being an american car than rs will EVER be.
Considering they had two American designers (Tony Southgate and John Wheeler), a Cosworth engine, a Garrett turbo and a Ford domestic driveline, that's a pretty American car in my book.
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Originally Posted by meilers
Titanic won a lot of awards as well. Are you prepared to defend that film as not hokey? Congratulations on your straw man.
The hokiness, in this case, comes from the silly foley effects, especially the "sliding gravel" sound which sounds like a handful of rocks on a baking sheet; also, the nutball jazz piano doesn't say "race up a hill in a rocket with wheels" to me.
No edits? In an award-winning film? So they shot the entire thing all in one take, tossing the camera from one cinematographer to the next like a football? Wow, no wonder it won awards! A 12-minute film with no editing!
Watch it again for the two times that they foley the shift sound, but he doesn't actually reach for the stick.
None of the Group B cars were actual production cars, so they were never available anywhere! However, the basis for the RS200 was actually the Ford Escort platform, in theory -- according to homologation rules, they had to produce 200 cars, so they built hopped-up Reliant/Escort "K" cars under the RS200 name and then chose a few of those to convert to the true "RS200." Those non-rally RS200s were indeed released in "street trim" in the US; about 50 were sold here, making them quite rare.
Considering they had two American designers (Tony Southgate and John Wheeler), a Cosworth engine, a Garrett turbo and a Ford domestic driveline, that's a pretty American car in my book.
You know, there's not a lot of name-calling on this forum; that's probably because the more evolved members of the board have figured out that doing so is childish playground behavior; my philosophy is do what you're good at, so if that works for you, carry on!
The hokiness, in this case, comes from the silly foley effects, especially the "sliding gravel" sound which sounds like a handful of rocks on a baking sheet; also, the nutball jazz piano doesn't say "race up a hill in a rocket with wheels" to me.
No edits? In an award-winning film? So they shot the entire thing all in one take, tossing the camera from one cinematographer to the next like a football? Wow, no wonder it won awards! A 12-minute film with no editing!
Watch it again for the two times that they foley the shift sound, but he doesn't actually reach for the stick.
None of the Group B cars were actual production cars, so they were never available anywhere! However, the basis for the RS200 was actually the Ford Escort platform, in theory -- according to homologation rules, they had to produce 200 cars, so they built hopped-up Reliant/Escort "K" cars under the RS200 name and then chose a few of those to convert to the true "RS200." Those non-rally RS200s were indeed released in "street trim" in the US; about 50 were sold here, making them quite rare.
Considering they had two American designers (Tony Southgate and John Wheeler), a Cosworth engine, a Garrett turbo and a Ford domestic driveline, that's a pretty American car in my book.
You know, there's not a lot of name-calling on this forum; that's probably because the more evolved members of the board have figured out that doing so is childish playground behavior; my philosophy is do what you're good at, so if that works for you, carry on!
so...according to you, in 1986, i could go to my local ford dealer, pony up the cash, and drive off the lot with my new rs200? i think not...what you say MAY be true, in as much as 50 of them MAY have come stateside, that's alot like saying the skyline is available in the states....can you get one, yes....do you have to jump through a million flaming hoops to do it? yes. and just because a couple of americans were involved in it's design and development, and because it bears the ford name does not make it an american car....just as the fact that like a billion foci are sold in the u.s does not make it an american car...it to, was designed by the european arm of ford (which explains why it, like the rs, is a kick *** car, and the mustang isn't)
also, movie tom-foolery necessary in the production of ANY film(of course, here is where you give me examples of films that were shot with one camera and no edits) only served to ENHANCE the story, and only movie geeks like you care....what negative do you have to say of the AWESOME helicopter shot of the multiple switchbacks?? it pretty much made the movie for me....but i'm sure you'll find fault with both the filmmaker and me for that.
and as for my apparent lack of evolution, i say to you....ooohhoooohhh oohh...ahhhahhh AHHHH! (think of your cousin cheetah (tarzan's little buddy))
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
His screenname says it all.... 
His name says it all, indeed.