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iTrader: (6)

I mean seriously... this guy is pure evil, we need to get rid of this guy....

Full story:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Story about Iran providing bombs:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/...raq/index.html

Now since the american people aren't supporting him in bombing Iran, he is going with his fall back plan and making **** up!!

Right.....

Then after all the deaths, the rising death toll count there over 2,300 troops DEAD, that's not counting the thousands on thousands who have been injuried during the war. The increase civil war within the country, and basically the full out mayhem in the middle east he has the nerve to say...

HellaDumb

iTrader: (3)

Em, sorry, NO. Bush got us involved with pure evil you dumb F*CK! Yeah, I'd prefer we pack up and let them return Iraq to the dark ages, but let's make the best of the current situation that he got us into.

By the way, you should be careful how you speak/write regarding our Commander-in-Chief unless you want the Russia-esque Siberia treatment.

MVWRX

iTrader: (1)

While I agree that Bush and the current admin have been underhanded in their actions (including lying, omiting critical facts, etc...), Iran really is a bad place that we need to watch out for. That'd be easier if Bush hadn't put us in such a s***storm in Iraq though...

MVWRX

iTrader: (1)

Way to be an a**...


I think you might be the only one left here who doesn't think Bush is a failure anyway...

SilverScoober02

I think we should resurrect that whole "Bush will be one of the greatest Presidents evAr" thread! :rotfl:

VIBEELEVEN

iTrader: (2)

I actually agree with you for once, except for the lying part.

Wasn't that Hella's thread?

VIBEELEVEN

iTrader: (2)

This thread doesn't make alot of sense though, who is pure evil? The president of Iran? But then you go on a nonsensical rant about how Bush lied and people died. And then contradict your statement by saying whoever believes the news is a retard?

Try to keep one thought together in the future. Thanks.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Are you talking about the one where we suggest that if everything does work out regarding foreign policy then he'll be "up there"? I still think this is true for the most part. Even if Iraq breaks out into a massive civil war, if that civil war ends peacefully, then Bush will still get credit for taking the first and most vital step. You don't even have to factor in other aspects of his Presidency at that point because the foreign policy aspect is so huge.

On the contrary, if everything continues to absolute dog ****, then Bush will be be considered one of the worst Presidents ever to serve. It will only be further exemplified at this point by economical reason(s) because his foreign policy would have never amounted to anything.

spedmunki

i'm placing my money on the latter

VIBEELEVEN

iTrader: (2)

And your reason is...

spedmunki

Becasue "operation iraqi freedom" or whatever it's called now is going to end up not having been worth our time, money, or american lives

VIBEELEVEN

iTrader: (2)

Probably, but why? Because it was destined to be a failure or because it has been made into one?

SilverScoober02

It was fought all wrong, IMO. Soldiers being handcuffed by what they can and can't do in a COMBAT ZONE. If we are going to go to war it must be all out. No half-assing it. If they would have let the soldiers do their jobs in the first place this would have been over already. Couple that with the fact that our reasons for being there have changed multiple times now...Bah, I hate talking about this anymore.

It's amazing how people have changed their thoughts now though. My father was very much for the war in the beginning, he would always argue with me that Sadaam was a threat to us directly, ties to terrorism, etc. Now he is so very much against Bush and the war because no one has any idea how to get us out or what is going to happen over there and every day it seems like now a US soldier gets killed and 50-60 Iraqis get murdered. I think the goal is admirable but unrealistic.

The problem with Middle-Eastern politics is that even when someone wins, no one really wins anything. Israel "won " when they got their land back but look what they have to deal with every single day.

The people in that area have been fighting with other religions, governments and even within their own people since the beginning of time and we are arrogant enough to think that we can go over there and say "Here, take this democracy, now isn't your life so much better" and they are all going to just perk up and say "hey, thanks for that, I don't know why we have been fighting for all these years but now we see the error in our ways"

Americans are the dumbest group of smart people on the planet in that regard. The only viewpoint most Americans have is highly ethnocentric.

VIBEELEVEN

iTrader: (2)

I agree with you, very well put but I have a hard time finding sincereity in the first part.

SilverScoober02

What the hate talking about it part?

Ok, maybe I do enjoy the banter....