When China takes over, let the fight begin.
01-19-2005, 12:47 PM
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When China takes over, let the fight begin.
I was listening to The Savage Nation yesterday on the drive home, and I thought one of his "Doomsday" scenarios was rather interesting. I only listened for a moment, so I only caught part of it. This was my understanding:
He proposed that China will continue to bleed the United States dry in the fashion it has been doing, until we (the U.S) is ultimately reliant upon imports and is financially controlled by other Nations (heck, I think we're already there). The supremacy of China isn't something that's even debated by most scholars, rather an inevitable future.
(If any of you don't buy the main underlying concept, do a little research on current efforts to turn Japan into a Military superpower- this time as our ally against China/ NK/ russia)
Once the U.S. has been weakend sufficiently, we will be broken by War or financial reasons. The U.S. will lose it's global grip on the world, being replace by China.
China versus Arab nations as a whole will be the main opponents at this point, with China turning to control the worlds oil. Additionally, I'm under the notion that communism and the muslim faith are mutually exclusive. That's where it would get ugly. China would not fight a PC war, and the Arabs would continue to hone their current geurilla tactics, in addition to having major WMD systems aqquired and developed over the years.
I don't doubt it could happen. If you told someone 50 years ago that most manufacturing would now come from overseas, they'd have thought you lost your mind. In that light, I wonder how things will be 50 years from now.
v v v Time to learn Mandarin! v v v
He proposed that China will continue to bleed the United States dry in the fashion it has been doing, until we (the U.S) is ultimately reliant upon imports and is financially controlled by other Nations (heck, I think we're already there). The supremacy of China isn't something that's even debated by most scholars, rather an inevitable future.
(If any of you don't buy the main underlying concept, do a little research on current efforts to turn Japan into a Military superpower- this time as our ally against China/ NK/ russia)
Once the U.S. has been weakend sufficiently, we will be broken by War or financial reasons. The U.S. will lose it's global grip on the world, being replace by China.
China versus Arab nations as a whole will be the main opponents at this point, with China turning to control the worlds oil. Additionally, I'm under the notion that communism and the muslim faith are mutually exclusive. That's where it would get ugly. China would not fight a PC war, and the Arabs would continue to hone their current geurilla tactics, in addition to having major WMD systems aqquired and developed over the years.
I don't doubt it could happen. If you told someone 50 years ago that most manufacturing would now come from overseas, they'd have thought you lost your mind. In that light, I wonder how things will be 50 years from now.
v v v Time to learn Mandarin! v v v
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01-19-2005, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Unfortunately he did... I think get dumber reading his posts
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Unfortunately he did... I think get dumber reading his posts
Unless you were trying to prove your own point. 
Doh! edit: not IBothers.
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01-19-2005, 03:18 PM
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Oh, and as far as the main premise of this thread, not a chance. China depends on the United States and is inextricably linked to our economic stability. How could they stay atop the hegemonic heap if they dwindle us to nothing?
BTW, I hope you never shop at Walmart since you are standing on your anti-foreign soapbox.
BTW, I hope you never shop at Walmart since you are standing on your anti-foreign soapbox.
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Oh, and as far as the main premise of this thread, not a chance. China depends on the United States and is inextricably linked to our economic stability. How could they stay atop the hegemonic heap if they dwindle us to nothing?
BTW, I hope you never shop at Walmart since you are standing on your anti-foreign soapbox.
BTW, I hope you never shop at Walmart since you are standing on your anti-foreign soapbox.
Heck, Subaru's are one of the rare Japanese vehicles that aren't even manufactured here.
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Im not trying to conintually harp on you, but if you are aware of the trend of reliance on foreign goods (esp. from China) and fear that China may one day usurp the U.S. as the reigning global power, why would you intentionally buy China made products?
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Heck, Subaru's are one of the rare Japanese vehicles that aren't even manufactured here.
Also, its "guerilla" not "gorilla" tactics unless, of course, the Arabs have been using apes somehow. Teehee.
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01-19-2005, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Im not trying to conintually harp on you, but if you are aware of the trend of reliance on foreign goods (esp. from China) and fear that China may one day usurp the U.S. as the reigning global power, why would you intentionally buy China made products?
Going back to my decision to buy a trailer, I actually didn't know that it was a foreign product when I chose to buy it(the thing was called USA trailer or whatever). I was completely amazed that anyone could manufacture something like that for so cheap, and the quality was decent. I'd guess the equivalent product coming out of a U.S. plant would be 3-5x as much.
I honestly believe that the only way to see the factors of production move back to the U.S. would be if there were a World War, and I doubt it will happen right now.