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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Those are all sexual acts that are traditionally taboo in most cultures on this planet. Certainly any place where the Bible, Talmud, or Koran are revered.
I think polygamy sounds fun as long as all partners are aware of what's going on. Homosexuality and bestiality, I find disgusting. But I find chinese food disgusting too. That doesn't mean I'm going to hate everyone who eats chinese food.
That doesn't alter the fact that the government shouldn't be making laws about things like this. There's no victim in any of those things, unless you count the sheep or chicken, and I don't believe in "animal rights".
I think polygamy sounds fun as long as all partners are aware of what's going on. Homosexuality and bestiality, I find disgusting. But I find chinese food disgusting too. That doesn't mean I'm going to hate everyone who eats chinese food.
That doesn't alter the fact that the government shouldn't be making laws about things like this. There's no victim in any of those things, unless you count the sheep or chicken, and I don't believe in "animal rights".
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
You have to be kidding me. 

I'm not religious in the slightest and would rather not have my son -or- daughter in a same sex marriage. I'd still love them with all my heart but this is the same way a lot of people feel. People are scared that if you make homosexual marriages the norm they'll become a fad. Now multiply this belief by Christian values and you can see where Bush is coming from. I'm not saying it's right but it's certainly understandable.
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Originally Posted by constellation
Are you comparing homosexuality to bestiality and polygamy?
If you think heterosexual-only marriage limits the right of gays, what about all the other humans it "disenfranchises?"
I think attaining equivalent legal rights should be issued to any two humans who so desire, but why do they need to be "married?"
Originally Posted by Salty
Although I disagree with Bush on this and believe homosexuals should be able to get married, you have to agree that homosexuality isn't biologically natural. The bottom line is that you're not going to be making any babies (the biological purpose of sex) with the recipe for a dirty Sanchez. Same thing holds true for bestiality and other sexual acts. Although I can't make this argument for polygamy, I can tell you that the reason why polygamy is against the law is the same reason why Bush is trying limit homosexuals and homosexuality... it's for family values, period.
I'm not religious in the slightest and would rather not have my son -or- daughter in a same sex marriage. I'd still love them with all my heart but this is the same way a lot of people feel. People are scared that if you make homosexual marriages the norm they'll become a fad. Now multiply this belief by Christian values and you can see where Bush is coming from. I'm not saying it's right but it's certainly understandable.
I'm not religious in the slightest and would rather not have my son -or- daughter in a same sex marriage. I'd still love them with all my heart but this is the same way a lot of people feel. People are scared that if you make homosexual marriages the norm they'll become a fad. Now multiply this belief by Christian values and you can see where Bush is coming from. I'm not saying it's right but it's certainly understandable.
While for the most part true. There are cases of homosexual animals in the animal kingdom. (Some goats and some felines...way to late to remember others.) Also biologically, we are driven to reproduce and pass on our genes, but there are exceptions to the rule.
The family value bit is where I disagree with you. How many homosexuals do you know first hand? I know several. Just because they are gay does not mean they are running around wild and don't want to have commited relationships. Also I know several that would make great parents. I don't see how people can be saying oh family values etc... when the divorce rate is above 50%. What family values are you trying to protect that homosexual couples do not have?
To be honest, I would also mind if I had kids who where gay. But proably for different reasons than you. It would hurt me because the fact they would go through a lot of discrimination. Besides that I could careless, they could always adobt a kid. What I find amusing is your fad comment though. Seriously, your either gay or your not. I don't see how being gay could ever turn it into a fad? Who wants to have a dick stuck up there butt as part of a fad?! (As a side note I asked one of my friends if he thought it would become a fad, and he said "**** off thats like saying do you want a big fat dick up your ***, because people somehow believe that having a dick up there is cool? thanks, i like my sphincter the way it is. i don't want to have to have a plastic ****bag attached to my rear when i get older. and haemarroids ain't a good thing either. ") Thoughts like that make me doubt how realistic people can be about this subject. And its very wrong and not understandable to what Christian should be since the bible teaches acceptance of others.
Originally Posted by HellaDumb
We are talking about marriage, which is and has historically been between a man and a woman. If you want marriage to be redefined to allow "any to any" marriage, this should allow you to marry your Mom, Dad, sister, or multiple people, right? Why would you discriminate against those who want to marry immediate family members, or multiple people?
If you think heterosexual-only marriage limits the right of gays, what about all the other humans it "disenfranchises?"
I think attaining equivalent legal rights should be issued to any two humans who so desire, but why do they need to be "married?"
If you think heterosexual-only marriage limits the right of gays, what about all the other humans it "disenfranchises?"
I think attaining equivalent legal rights should be issued to any two humans who so desire, but why do they need to be "married?"
They should just take away marriage period. And only be civil unions. Why is government entering the bedroom i have no idea.....
Marriage should only be in a Church thats it.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
The family value bit is where I disagree with you. How many homosexuals do you know first hand? I know several. Just because they are gay does not mean they are running around wild and don't want to have commited relationships. Also I know several that would make great parents. I don't see how people can be saying oh family values etc... when the divorce rate is above 50%. What family values are you trying to protect that homosexual couples do not have?
Originally Posted by Unregistered
To be honest, I would also mind if I had kids who where gay. But proably for different reasons than you. It would hurt me because the fact they would go through a lot of discrimination. Besides that I could careless, they could always adobt a kid. What I find amusing is your fad comment though. Seriously, your either gay or your not. I don't see how being gay could ever turn it into a fad? Who wants to have a dick stuck up there butt as part of a fad?! (As a side note I asked one of my friends if he thought it would become a fad, and he said "**** off thats like saying do you want a big fat dick up your ***, because people somehow believe that having a dick up there is cool? thanks, i like my sphincter the way it is. i don't want to have to have a plastic ****bag attached to my rear when i get older. and haemarroids ain't a good thing either. ") Thoughts like that make me doubt how realistic people can be about this subject. And its very wrong and not understandable to what Christian should be since the bible teaches acceptance of others.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
They should just take away marriage period. And only be civil unions. Why is government entering the bedroom i have no idea.....
Marriage should only be in a Church thats it.
Marriage should only be in a Church thats it.
If you dont have faith, I dont see why it is any different to call a "marriage" a civil union.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
They should just take away marriage period. And only be civil unions. Why is government entering the bedroom i have no idea.....
Marriage should only be in a Church thats it.
Marriage should only be in a Church thats it.
Most people are fine with gays or any two humans getting the equivalent legal rights, but most feel that marriage is only "a binding contract between that hetero couple and God."
The idea of taking away marriage in unacceptable, since it is the base of our current society.


