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Old 02-08-2005, 01:27 PM
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Permission To Clone Humans

This is pretty disturbing.

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It's disturbing if you're religious. Otherwise, it's increadibly exciting. I'm a neuroscientist, and to me this is great news. But I understand the concerns of those who do not agree with me. All I can say is, trust that these guys will do what they say and nothing more. To be honest, what really scares me is how much cloning is probably being done by gov'ts secretely in their military research programs.
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Religion has nothing to do with it.
All things medical are developed in order to increase shareholder wealth.
Growing humans for money seems wrong to me.
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Whoa there...at a company level, you're right...it's all for profit. But there are a S***load of people working on projects like this that aren't shareholders and don't get paid for the amount they work. We do it because it's what we know best and because we know it'll help somebody at somepoint have a more comfortable life. Growing humans for money is wrong. But growing human embryos for the betterment of hundreds of thousands of other humans...that's a different argument.

And btw, the only reason stem cell research and cloning even get into the news is because it offends religious people. Otherwise, noone cares what a bunch of scientist dorks do in their labs.
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Sometimes, scientists don't need to "just do it."
Instead of growing embryos, why not use aborted fetus'?
At least some good would come from abortions?
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Originally Posted by Oaf
Sometimes, scientists don't need to "just do it."
Instead of growing embryos, why not use aborted fetus'?
At least some good would come from abortions?

This is a valid option for some types of research. But for what this guy wants to do, that's not possible. He needs tissue that has a develpmental problem so he can ellucidate what the problem is and why it happens. Aborted fetuses have a very very low chance of randomely having this problem. But a clone of someone who already has the disease/problem will have the problem 100% of the time. I agree that all possible alternatives to a controversial process like this should be looked into. But sometimes, there's just one good way to do it.
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Note to self: MVWRX agrees with Utilitarianism

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Hahaha, yeah there's no deniying that...utility beyond all else...
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Scary yet it will happen sooner than later. Well see.
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