Originally Posted by Older article from Allan Wall - Houston Chronicle writer and American currently living in Mexico

The Mexican government works to hinder assimilation of Mexicans in the United States and to retain their loyalty. The goal is to gain control over U.S. immigration policy. And the strategy is working. Notice how U.S. immigration is no longer considered an internal U.S. matter but rather a bilateral issue to be negotiated between the United States and Mexico. Mexican immigration policy, stricter than our own, is off limits from such negotiation, of course.

Some influential Mexicans go even further, speaking openly in terms of a reconquista -- a reconquest of the U.S. Southwest, briefly a part of Mexico in the 19th century.

Mexican attitudes to the assimilation of immigrants in the United States are diametrically opposed to ours. Americans, raised on romantic ideas of immigration, believe that immigrants will continue to assimilate and become Americans, just like back in the Ellis Island days.

What they don't understand is how it's viewed from south of the border. Mexicans generally regard any person of Mexican ancestry as a Mexican -- regardless of citizenship -- even if his ancestors have lived in the United States for generations.

The Mexican government and [Mexican] media regard Mexican-Americans as tools of Mexican foreign policy, who will support the interests of Mexico. The government is cultivating a relationship with them to win their loyalty. Prominent Mexican-Americans who already support Mexican goals are invited to conferences in Mexico, where they discuss how to liberalize already loose U.S. immigration law.

Originally Posted by HellaDumb

I'm all for putting up a wall and having automated machine gun turrets that fire hot tomales at trespassers. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by HellaDumb

There will be no such thing as cheap migrant labor when illegals are legitimized. They'll get benefits, higher wages, better living conditions, etc etc... Your government only likes Mexicans because they are treated and paid like dirt.

Think of all the law suits just waiting to be filed for the historic poor treatment of migrants.


In other words, get ready for it, because you'll be paying more.

Originally Posted by MVWRX

I know that if all illegal workers were converted to legals that there would be an initial cost. But the fact that these workers would then be paying taxes helps to offset this cost. Furthermore, eliminating the motivation for illegal immigrants to come here and the benefits in a humanitarian sense completeley offset any cost that tax payers may have to pay in my mind. I would think everyone here would like to see a reduction in the motivation for illegal workers to come here.

Originally Posted by MVWRX

First off, kicking out all the illegals would be more expensive (not to mention infinitly harder) than legalizing the ones here (if we kick them out, we have to find them and transport them...if we legalize them, we can have them come to an office for documentation. I'd bet it's much more expensive to kick them out).

Originally Posted by MVWRX

Secondly, the article you post says that less hispanic people are getting proper health care in this country, not that they don't produce as well or work as hard (in other words it is not supporting your assertation that the US profits less from hispanics than other immigrant groups).

Originally Posted by HellaDumb

Where is there any evidence of this? How about we advertise free prizes and when they all sit in the waiting room, the roll-up door closes and they get a direct trip to Juarez? They've done this kind of round-up with other lawbreakers.

Originally Posted by Helladumb

I think it's fair to draw the conclusion that people who are too poor to afford to pay for health care are not contributing to society, but rather are a financial drain.