MCCain is the GOP H4x0rz!
07-14-2004, 01:43 PM
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Like I've been saying, the GOP has been overrun by corporate ***** zealots.
The sad thing is that the few left with an ounce of integrity aren't calling the rest of them out on it or declaring themselves as independants, McCain deserves props- even from me, for standing up here.
The originators of the republican party must be spinning in their graves.
The sad thing is that the few left with an ounce of integrity aren't calling the rest of them out on it or declaring themselves as independants, McCain deserves props- even from me, for standing up here.
The originators of the republican party must be spinning in their graves.
07-14-2004, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
The originators of the republican party must be spinning in their graves.
07-14-2004, 07:49 PM
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McCain is the man. I'm typically liberal with my vote but I'd elect him in a heartbeat. One of the few in power who truly cares about his job and its effect on America.
I am pissed off about the Republicans always looking for new Constitutional amendments every congresional cycle- balanced budget, abortion, same-sex marriage.. next one will probably be obscenity. Even though I'm on the liberal side of all those issues, I don't care that the conservatives are against those things. They're entitled to their views, and we count votes to see who gets their way. But NONE of those things are Constitutional matters. They are matters of law to be determined by the "several states." I know, Roe v. Wade isn't state level law, but it's not part of the Constitution either and that's the important part.
Hey, Congressional conservatives- cop a clue. If you don't have enough votes in the House and Senate to make a law, it DOESN'T get made a law! That's how it freakin works around here!
I am pissed off about the Republicans always looking for new Constitutional amendments every congresional cycle- balanced budget, abortion, same-sex marriage.. next one will probably be obscenity. Even though I'm on the liberal side of all those issues, I don't care that the conservatives are against those things. They're entitled to their views, and we count votes to see who gets their way. But NONE of those things are Constitutional matters. They are matters of law to be determined by the "several states." I know, Roe v. Wade isn't state level law, but it's not part of the Constitution either and that's the important part.
Hey, Congressional conservatives- cop a clue. If you don't have enough votes in the House and Senate to make a law, it DOESN'T get made a law! That's how it freakin works around here!
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07-15-2004, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Like I've been saying, the GOP has been overrun by corporate ***** zealots.
The sad thing is that the few left with an ounce of integrity aren't calling the rest of them out on it or declaring themselves as independants, McCain deserves props- even from me, for standing up here.
The originators of the republican party must be spinning in their graves.
The sad thing is that the few left with an ounce of integrity aren't calling the rest of them out on it or declaring themselves as independants, McCain deserves props- even from me, for standing up here.
The originators of the republican party must be spinning in their graves.
Both parties are overrun by corporate ***** zealots. They only differ on social issues.
07-15-2004, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
McCain is the man. I'm typically liberal with my vote but I'd elect him in a heartbeat. One of the few in power who truly cares about his job and its effect on America.
I am pissed off about the Republicans always looking for new Constitutional amendments every congresional cycle- balanced budget, abortion, same-sex marriage.. next one will probably be obscenity. Even though I'm on the liberal side of all those issues, I don't care that the conservatives are against those things. They're entitled to their views, and we count votes to see who gets their way. But NONE of those things are Constitutional matters. They are matters of law to be determined by the "several states." I know, Roe v. Wade isn't state level law, but it's not part of the Constitution either and that's the important part.
Hey, Congressional conservatives- cop a clue. If you don't have enough votes in the House and Senate to make a law, it DOESN'T get made a law! That's how it freakin works around here!
I am pissed off about the Republicans always looking for new Constitutional amendments every congresional cycle- balanced budget, abortion, same-sex marriage.. next one will probably be obscenity. Even though I'm on the liberal side of all those issues, I don't care that the conservatives are against those things. They're entitled to their views, and we count votes to see who gets their way. But NONE of those things are Constitutional matters. They are matters of law to be determined by the "several states." I know, Roe v. Wade isn't state level law, but it's not part of the Constitution either and that's the important part.
Hey, Congressional conservatives- cop a clue. If you don't have enough votes in the House and Senate to make a law, it DOESN'T get made a law! That's how it freakin works around here!
so say I am totally against something, but my constituents are complete for it, and they are the ones that got me elected, and possible re-elected. If there is not enough votes for it to even come close to passing, I am going to hoot and hollar about it and how much we need this to pass !
it has nothing to with them knowing it wont pass, its the politicians giving lip service so they can tell people in the future they tried their best, even though they don't give a rats *** about it
07-15-2004, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowasuby
Both parties are overrun by corporate ***** zealots. They only differ on social issues.
Basically, he thinks outside the box and keeps it fair.
07-15-2004, 09:18 AM
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There are a few on the other side of the aisle too, Robert Byrd comes to mind, not that his early history is much to be proud of, at least he's come around to standing on principles the last couple of years.
And I like having Barbara Lee representing us Berkeley folks back in DC, despite her being a democrat, I think she still has some integrity, even if I don't always support her positions-most of the time I do.
And I like having Barbara Lee representing us Berkeley folks back in DC, despite her being a democrat, I think she still has some integrity, even if I don't always support her positions-most of the time I do.
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07-15-2004, 11:31 AM
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If you think you are a republican, but aren't excited about this administrations direction, you are probably more of a Libertarian than you know.....especially about the "less government is better" bit.
Republican administrations and congresses have grown the government every bit as much, if not a lot more than their democrat counterparts- both major parties are really bad that way.
Republican administrations and congresses have grown the government every bit as much, if not a lot more than their democrat counterparts- both major parties are really bad that way.
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08-05-2004, 11:41 PM
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McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit. Calls current anti-Kerry campaign ads questioning military service as "dishonest and dishonorable".
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08-06-2004, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingless Wonder
McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit. Calls current anti-Kerry campaign ads questioning military service as "dishonest and dishonorable".
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Good find, Alan.
As much as i like McCain and don't agree with him on this one. This is a dirty election and he had to expect some pretty low blows from Bush and Kerry. Time will soon make everything go away come November.
08-06-2004, 08:49 AM
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Seems the Whitehouse has follwed suit and already distanced themselves from the ads.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_040805184948
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_040805184948