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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Joe Conservative.

Ran across this earlier; A little reminder that Americans should work together, rather than damn opposing viewpoints.

'Joe Republicans Should Thank a Liberal'

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Are you insane? Joe would be speaking German or be a lamp shade if it weren't for conservatives.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Are you insane? Joe would be speaking German or be a lamp shade if it weren't for conservatives.
You have anything else hella-dumb to say?
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Are you insane? Joe would be speaking German or be a lamp shade if it weren't for conservatives.
Even though that's totally false, let's pretend it's not for a second. Do you argue that anything in that argument is, in a general sense, false? Is there a conservative who won't collect on his Social Security when he retires? (One like you, who doesn't come from old money and wasn't born with financial security?) Are there any who think it would be a good idea to roll back the transportation, industrial, agricultural, fiscal, educational, social, and every other safety standard the government of this country has put in place over the last 150 years, in order to make things cheaper? Would that be worth it? Do you honestly think you are worse off in this country because of all of the laws passed by liberals?
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Lets also pretend that liberals nowadays have anything in common with liberals of yore and have somehow inherited the credit for their deeds. And I think that there will be many a conservative that won't collect social security when they retire. Social security is broke dude.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Try as I might I can't find a point to this thread.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Not really a "little reminder that Americans should work together, rather than damn opposing viewpoints.".

More like conservative bashing/ liberal back patting.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by deyes
Lets also pretend that liberals nowadays have anything in common with liberals of yore and have somehow inherited the credit for their deeds.
Thank god almighty it's pretend. You would seriously like to think that liberals take credit for actions past, wouldn't you? The memory of men and women who fought for the freedoms and protections we have today were greater than the feeble thoughts that may, or may not, stem from your mind. All americans should honor their dedication to the very fabric of what America is. Or... was.


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And I think that there will be many a conservative that won't collect social security when they retire. Social security is broke dude.
Obviously for a reason.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by deyes
More like conservative bashing/ liberal back patting.
Well, if you would please direct your eyes to the primary post. Nowhere in this passage are conservatives being slanderd or demeaned.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lethalpsi
You would seriously like to think that liberals take credit for actions past, wouldn't you?
That was not your intention? You don't think that is what the author intended? I can't imagine what their intention was if not to claim those acheivments for all whom call themselves liberals. Who is the author BTW?

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The memory of men and women who fought for the freedoms and protections we have today were greater than the feeble thoughts that may, or may not, stem from your mind.
Were greater? Or are they still?......I just don't know......I mean I think I have great thoughts? Are they greater than the memory of men and women yada yada yada...wait.....am I feeble minded or are you just not making any sense? I mean I know you're trying to sound deep but c'mon. You're trying to stir up ish.

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All americans should honor their dedication to the very fabric of what America is. Or... was.
Ah..it's all clear now. This garbage was meant to honor the dedication of the aforementioned men and women (or their memory or something or other) to the very fabric of what America is...or something......................................... ..........feeble.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lethalpsi
Well, if you would please direct your eyes to the primary post. Nowhere in this passage are conservatives being slanderd or demeaned.

I'm sorry but are you being serious? Thats exactly what it was all about. Slandering conservatives. Unless you wrote it and are somehow the sole interpreter of it. Is there some liberal here that agrees with this guy?
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Oh well.

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by deyes
That was not your intention? You don't think that is what the author intended? I can't imagine what their intention was if not to claim those acheivments for all whom call themselves liberals. Who is the author BTW?
My intention! My intention, sir, was to bring to mind the daily reprocussions past <u>individuals</u> have had in our daily lives that have made a difference; regardless of political views. What you have implied, in my view, is that i'm rooting for my home team. THAT IS DAMN FOCKING RIGHT.

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Were greater? Or are they still?......I just don't know......I mean I think I have great thoughts? Are they greater than the memory of men and women yada yada yada...wait.....am I feeble minded or are you just not making any sense? I mean I know you're trying to sound deep but c'mon. You're trying to stir up ish.
No, sir. This. Makes. No. Sense.

Originally Posted by deyes
Ah..it's all clear now. This garbage was meant to honor the dedication of the aforementioned men and women (or their memory or something or other) to the very fabric of what America is...or something......................................... ..........feeble.
As well, to honor the men and women who believe they are better off themselves.
"We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

Godspeed to you, sir.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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I can guaruntee you that the Agriculture standards are not because of some "girly-man liberal". Why would any farmer want to risk losing the person who pays his income?

Interesting post, though a bit extreme.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jvick125
I can guarantee you that the Agriculture standards are not because of some "girly-man liberal". Why would any farmer want to risk losing the person who pays his income?

Interesting post, though a bit extreme.
I'm familiar with rural nevada. Farmers and Ranchers are more concerned with income tax breaks. Write off's essentially... Equiptment; Vehicles; Tools; Sheds; Barns; Fencing; The amount of animals nurtured; The amount of crop produced; etc. In consequence, the rancher/farmer is his own income; therefore, eliminating the person who contributes the income. This gives the 'farmer' benefit over risk.

I would like to see this thread closed.



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