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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Israeli POW Policy: DO NOT **** WITH US

Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies

Middle East correspondent Martin Chulov
July 01, 2006
ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.

The unprecedented warning was delivered to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a letter as Israel debated a deal offered by Hamas to free Corporal Gilad Shalit.

It came as Israeli military officials readied a second invasion force for a huge offensive into Gaza.

Hamas's Gaza-based political leaders, including Mr Haniyeh, had already gone into hiding.

But last night's direct threat to kill Mr Haniyeh, a democratically elected head of state, sharply raised the stakes.

The bid to free Corporal Shalit was brokered by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who last night warned Hamas it faced severe consequences if it did not curb its "extreme stance" and described the growing conflict as a lightning rod for Palestinian vengeance.

Jerusalem has made no official comment, but Egyptian state media said Israel had found the offer unacceptable. Israel has not spelt out the terms demanded by Hamas, but earlier this week it refused to buy into talk of a prisoner swap.

Thousands of Hamas supporters protested in Gaza City late on Thursday over the arrest by Israeli forces of up to 32 Hamas MPs on the West Bank that day.

A Hamas spokesman said the group would never recognise Israel, in spite of a deal its leaders signed this week offering implicit recognition of the Jewish state in return for easing an economic blockade.

Israeli fighter jets bombed 20 targets in Gaza, including the Interior Ministry, which it said had been used by militants to stage meetings, while artillery hit the northern strip with 500 shells in the 24 hours until yesterday morning.

Jewish settler Eliyahu Asheri, who was murdered by militants this week, was buried on Thursday as leaders of the Popular Resistance Committees pledged to seize more hostages in the West Bank. No further word has emerged about another suspected Jewish hostage, Noach Moskowitz, who Israeli police said was found dead hours after Mr Asheri's remains were found.

Much of Gaza, including two main hospitals, was without power and running water as a UN aid chief warned that the 1.4 million residents of the strip were three days away from a humanitarian crisis.

"They are heading for the abyss unless they get electricity and fuel restored," said emergency relief co-ordinator Jan Egeland, who urged militants to free Corporal Shalit and stop firing rockets into Israel.

Residents complain that sonic booms caused by Israeli jets traumatise children and that shelling confines families to their homes.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has vowed the military will do all it can to avoid civilian deaths if a full-scale assault is launched.

Mr Olmert said the decision to invade northern Gaza had already been delayed to allow Mr Mubarak's negotiations to continue.

The arrested Hamas legislators have been sent to security prisons and many will stand trial on terrorism offences. The detentions have hurt Hamas's already limited ability to govern and are likely to force a regime change.

Israel claims it has intelligence about the area where Corporal Shalit is held, but has been unable to pinpoint the exact location. Mr Olmert said the military would leave the strip if he was unconditionally and safely returned.

Egypt and the neighbouring Arab states of Jordan and Lebanon fear a war between Israel and the Palestinians could lead to uprisings within their own borders, which house many Palestinian refugees.
What do you guys think? Talk about hardline. It's refreshing.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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If Hamas is successful in remaining in this same position throughout this ordeal, they've won a huge victory, and set a precedent. Israel needs to move now or else they'll be loosing too much momentum.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Reminds me of Putin's statement that he'd assigned the Russian secret services to find and kill the people who kidnapped/killed their embassy workers. Why is it that the US is the only country not allowed to do this kind of thing?
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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It's not that we're not allowed to do it, it's just that we've been castrated by the left (and other pussies) that would be up in arms.
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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blah blah blah blame the left..

wah wah wah blame the dirty hippies..

same ****ing song all the time aint it? Dont you guys get tired of the same bland melody?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
blah blah blah blame the left..

wah wah wah blame the dirty hippies..

same ****ing song all the time aint it? Dont you guys get tired of the same bland melody?

Yes, the extremely agressive, no holds barred "dirty hippies." Well in this case I think the assumption is correct. This country lost a lot of gusto since Vietnam for a reason.
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Dre, how do you explain the pussification of America?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Dre, how do you explain the pussification of America?
It's the typical flag wearing Republicans we keep hearing about, Paul. I guess you have to keep your mind occupied during the off-season after killing Bambi and Nascar. You know, like growing wheat grass, using organic beet juice for tie dyed t-shirts, and making posters out of recycled paper and biodegradable paints on how confrontations of all sorts are baaaad, mmmkay.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Dre, how do you explain the pussification of America?

People being whiny little *****es. And that door swings both ways.. both right and left.

Oppulence and wealth also comes into play, as well as meaningless entertainement, etc etc.

You could right a ****ing thesis on the topic if you wanted.
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Yes, the extremely agressive, no holds barred "dirty hippies." Well in this case I think the assumption is correct. This country lost a lot of gusto since Vietnam for a reason.

and a fair share of that blame should rest firmly on whiney *** former military folks who have nothing better to do then whine about ****.

If you wanted to continue to be "a bad ***" why not go back over? Why not hit up some of the contractors (no doubt they pay better then what you make now)? Plenty of chances for you to get back into the stink. I mean that is what you are talking about right? Not being a ***** and diving into the stink on a whim to proove your bravado and cement your macho ego a bit more?

So whats your ****ing excuses guys? Huh you sit here and arm chair general all the ****ing time.. i dont see a .iq next to your location.. what gives? All steam no beam?
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
and a fair share of that blame should rest firmly on whiney *** former military folks who have nothing better to do then whine about ****.

If you wanted to continue to be "a bad ***" why not go back over? Why not hit up some of the contractors (no doubt they pay better then what you make now)? Plenty of chances for you to get back into the stink. I mean that is what you are talking about right? Not being a ***** and diving into the stink on a whim to proove your bravado and cement your macho ego a bit more?

So whats your ****ing excuses guys? Huh you sit here and arm chair general all the ****ing time.. i dont see a .iq next to your location.. what gives? All steam no beam?
I don't think it's that so much as the US seems to half-*** stuff, and it ends up looking like we're just ****ing around, regardless of actual commitment.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
and a fair share of that blame should rest firmly on whiney *** former military folks who have nothing better to do then whine about ****.

If you wanted to continue to be "a bad ***" why not go back over? Why not hit up some of the contractors (no doubt they pay better then what you make now)? Plenty of chances for you to get back into the stink. I mean that is what you are talking about right? Not being a ***** and diving into the stink on a whim to proove your bravado and cement your macho ego a bit more?

So whats your ****ing excuses guys? Huh you sit here and arm chair general all the ****ing time.. i dont see a .iq next to your location.. what gives? All steam no beam?
Wow. At least I served, broke dick. I didn't just volunteer once to work on ****ing government computers and claim to be saving the world from a massive electronic terror scheme that would render our cooling fans inoperable until we went and bought another one for $3.95 at Radio Shack. I volunteered once as an infantryman and then a few more times for training, specific units, and an overseas real-world deployment on top of that. I'm not serving with a security contractor because I have goals and dreams like yourself. That, and because I want to start a family soon and am no longer single like a lot of those guys. Who the **** do you think you're preaching to Paul and myself? And most ex-military guys do have the aggressive attitude Israel has shown Palestine. Why are you confusing whining with aggressiveness (or lack thereof)

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Some people just don't get it. People wouldn't have to volunteer or be ordered to serve multiple tours if everyone would just MAN UP and serve their country. Help preserve what many have come to take for granted. Unfortunately, more and more broke dicks get born each day and live their lives behind a computer screen where dangerous things, things that threaten our sought after way of life, can't get to them...
Of course recent events have proven that wrong.
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Just put him on your ignore list like I did. He's doesn't say anything anyways.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Wow. At least I served, broke dick. I didn't just volunteer once to work on ****ing government computers and claim to be saving the world from a massive electronic terror scheme that would render our cooling fans inoperable until we went and bought another one for $3.95 at Radio Shack. I volunteered once as an infantryman and then a few more times for training, specific units, and an overseas real-world deployment on top of that. I'm not serving with a security contractor because I have goals and dreams like yourself. That, and because I want to start a family soon and am no longer single like a lot of those guys. Who the **** do you think you're preaching to Paul and myself? And most ex-military guys do have the aggressive attitude Israel has shown Palestine. Why are you confusing whining with aggressiveness (or lack thereof)

nor do i.

i dont work govie, i leave that for the monkeys.

dont you love it when you get under the skin of a an uptight *****?

If you missed my point i will try and make it simple for you.

SHUT THE **** UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ALREADY.

Crying, pissing, whining, moaning wont get **** done.. Dont like something? CHANGE IT. For god sakes you are a former. mil'r this isnt or shouldnt be a new concept to you.

Dont like that ******* on the hill pointing an rpg at you and your buddies? What are you going to do? Cry about it? Blog it? **** and moan on a forum hoping things will change?

Some reason i dont think you would.. (at least i hope you wont as no matter how much **** i serve your way i would like to think you are at least a man of some means)



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