Salty

iTrader: (14)

You make a portrait of Bush out of Chimpanzees! Of Course!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...e_arts_monkeys

Translation: "I'm an attention *****!"

Newsflash: The manager's right to discretion on pieces he finds offensive has squat to do with "fundamental American rights", "freedom of speech" -or- the sand in your vagina, Savido. ktnxbye!

MVWRX

iTrader: (1)

Translation: "I'm an attention ***** in teh politics forum at i-club."

Don't get mad, Salty...in America, we're allowed to make fun of the president. The artist didn't get in the news on purpose...it was conservatives calling attention to his art that got a news story out of it.

Edit: You know I appreciate how many threads you start...just gotta check you a little every once in a while, you know?

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Please Explain how my promotion and support for this forum makes me an attention *****?


I never said you couldn't make fun of the President, MVWRX. Please tell me which part of my initial statement suggests that. I specifically said: "The manager's right to discretion on pieces he finds offensive has squat to do with "fundamental American rights", "freedom of speech"


It was the entire controversy of the matter as this is what the media thrives on. You have no evidence that the manager was a conservative to begin with! The manager was acting in the best interest (or so he thought) of the gallery.

You don't go out of your way to make a painting such as this and put it in the public eye unless you wanted to stir the waters. He could have easily made this painting and sold it in private auction. Instead, he wanted to make it a big extravaganza in order to pawn himself of as the “victim of oppression from Bush's communist-like regime” and please the hemp wearing Daria chick who's creaming her pants as she dwells on the painting's symbolism.

WagonMonster

You're not going to stop the war any time soon.

Dubya brought us into this ****storm, and we're going to be stuck with it for years.

This is Vietnam x10

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Don't try to be too optimistic or reasonable in your comparisons, Will. It's not like anyone actually fighting in the sandbox needs your support -or- the future of Iraqi citizens even matters.

The only major similarity between OIF and Vietnam is the guerrilla presence which isn't anywhere near what it was in Vietnam. The death toll as of now is 1297 with ~180 of them accidental deaths (people falling asleep and driving into a river). Deaths that could have occurred just as frequent in training accidents across the country in the same time period (and they do every year). The death toll in Vietnam was ~58,000 by the mid 1970's so there's no ****ing contest here. It's not like we're not gaining ground in this war by smoking pot in Dien Bien Phu and shooting at hallucinations... instead the golden spike was driven in the fist major freeway system in Iraq today.

Do I feel this war wasn't the most logical route for Bush? Of course, but the choice has been made to go forward so why not make the most of it? Instead of dragging your tail and suggesting the war in Iraq is x10 worse than Vietnam when you've probably never fired (or held) and M-16, why not show a little optimism, hope and support for an effort that isn't lost yet? Just a ****ing suggestion... wouldn't want you to put in an effort or hurt yourself doing it though.

ish

iTrader: (7)

back to the question at hand

how do you stop the war in iraq?

easy, its called bomb the hell out of the country till nothing is left. there, done, problem eliminated

MVWRX

iTrader: (1)

I know man, I was just giving you a hard time...you're not an attention *****, and the manager can do whatever the f*** he wants with art in his own place. I don't know if I agree that the artist wanted to start a controversy, but I think it's cool that he's allowed to make whatever art he wants and display it however he wants.

Kevin M

iTrader: (12)

That's pretty much how Muslim fundamentalists feel about us.

BlingBlingBlue

How do you stop the war in Iraq? How do you put a sidewalk back in the concrete truck?

At this point, you can't stop the war in Iraq without abandoning the country, which is not an option from the view point of regional stability. We are morally obligated to help repair the infrastructure we destroyed. Of course, it is a tough thing to do since the place is in total anarchy - a result of not thinking through our actions before we acted.

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