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Originally Posted by MVWRX
Man, that's irrelevant...this discussion has nothing to do with the debate between law makers and gun enthusiests as to what the definition of an assault rifle is. The soldier was most likely holding an M16-A2 (that's still standard issue in the Marines, right?), which I consider an assault rifle.
The real point in this thread (which has been stated before) is that noone here knows what the politics of the administrator in question were; so none of us can say that her actions were politically motivated. In this case, I give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that her actions were motivated more by the recent happenings on school campuses having to do with guns than they were by her politics.
The real point in this thread (which has been stated before) is that noone here knows what the politics of the administrator in question were; so none of us can say that her actions were politically motivated. In this case, I give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that her actions were motivated more by the recent happenings on school campuses having to do with guns than they were by her politics.
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It's not irrelevant when you make a case stating that that the weapon of choice in school shootings is an "assualt rifle"!!! Not to mention that only weapon in the Marine picture is even a rifle!!!! It's obvious that "your own prejudices and ignorances" are shining brightly on this one. If the weapon was the issue than why did the school district allow this picture?
It's the same F'n rifle?!?!
Either it was pressure from outside the school district, or the school district over ruled a poor decision by the principal...a decsion that was based not on policy but on politics.
It's the same F'n rifle?!?!
Either it was pressure from outside the school district, or the school district over ruled a poor decision by the principal...a decsion that was based not on policy but on politics.
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P.S. please prove that "Assault weapons" are the weapon of choice for school shootings...should be hard for you to do considering you don't know the defintion
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Originally Posted by svxr8dr
If the weapon was the issue than why did the school district allow this picture?
The school district didn't overrule the principal by any stretch of the imagination. They upheld her original ruling if anything. They came to a COMPROMISE which is a word that you probably have a hard time comprehending.
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My goodness, what strange logic.
"The gun is the focal point."
This may come as a shock to some here, but...
He's a Marine!...and the M16A2 is the basic tool of all Marines.
Would this dip**** of a principal request that the student remove the scalple from a picture of her brother if he was a surgeon?
Didn't the latest school shooter used a .22 caliber rifle and/or pistol and his grandpa's police issue pistol...none were assault or assault-type weapons?
For what it's worth, the principal is probably a butch dike & hates men.
"The gun is the focal point."
This may come as a shock to some here, but...
He's a Marine!...and the M16A2 is the basic tool of all Marines.
Would this dip**** of a principal request that the student remove the scalple from a picture of her brother if he was a surgeon?
Didn't the latest school shooter used a .22 caliber rifle and/or pistol and his grandpa's police issue pistol...none were assault or assault-type weapons?
For what it's worth, the principal is probably a butch dike & hates men.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
You can barely see the rifle in that picture and the weapon isn't the focal point of the picture. Either way it was a good compromise that was made in my opinion. That is a better pic of the soldiers doing their job than the other anyways.
The school district didn't overrule the principal by any stretch of the imagination. They upheld her original ruling if anything. They came to a COMPROMISE which is a word that you probably have a hard time comprehending.
The school district didn't overrule the principal by any stretch of the imagination. They upheld her original ruling if anything. They came to a COMPROMISE which is a word that you probably have a hard time comprehending.
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Originally Posted by Oaf
My goodness, what strange logic.
"The gun is the focal point."
This may come as a shock to some here, but...
He's a Marine!...and the M16A2 is the basic tool of all Marines.
Would this dip**** of a principal request that the student remove the scalple from a picture of her brother if he was a surgeon?
Didn't the latest school shooter used a .22 caliber rifle and/or pistol and his grandpa's police issue pistol...none were assault or assault-type weapons?
For what it's worth, the principal is probably a butch dike & hates men.
"The gun is the focal point."
This may come as a shock to some here, but...
He's a Marine!...and the M16A2 is the basic tool of all Marines.
Would this dip**** of a principal request that the student remove the scalple from a picture of her brother if he was a surgeon?
Didn't the latest school shooter used a .22 caliber rifle and/or pistol and his grandpa's police issue pistol...none were assault or assault-type weapons?
For what it's worth, the principal is probably a butch dike & hates men.
Only point I am making is the first post emphasizes the gun whereas the second pic emphasizes the iraqi boy and the job they are doing. That is the only reason I can think that they allowed the one pic but not the other....
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Originally Posted by svxr8dr
The Principal refused to allow any poicture with a gun (re-read the article please) thus her decison was over ruled. A compomise is something the Principal should have done in the first place rather than let her obvious opinion cloud her judgment. Something you also must suffer from.
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As Oaf said he is a Marine!!!! The weapon is his tool. I hate to break it to you, but the job of the military is to kill things and break stuff. I know your in denial about this and you probably hold on to your Slick ***** dreams of a peacekeeping military force, but in the real world the military is for warfighting
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
You can barely see the rifle in that picture and the weapon isn't the focal point of the picture.
i can't believe someone would have a problem with a pic of someone in the military holding a rifle. but that's just my .02
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Originally Posted by svxr8dr
As Oaf said he is a Marine!!!! The weapon is his tool. I hate to break it to you, but the job of the military is to kill things and break stuff. I know your in denial about this and you probably hold on to your Slick ***** dreams of a peacekeeping military force, but in the real world the military is for warfighting
I was offering up a reason as to why the picture in question was denied and it is not unforseeable given the recent school violence. It is a much more rational thought than you charging that she must be a bleeding heart liberal and was so enraged by the thought of a picture of an american soldier up in her school that she ordered it taken down in a fit of socialistic rage.
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Originally Posted by 04whitewrx
was the rifle a focal point in the first pic? i bet it wasn't. i don't care what surroundings the picture was taken in, rifles and marines are gennerally found together. i know when i was in iraq, you didn't go anywhere without your rifle.
i can't believe someone would have a problem with a pic of someone in the military holding a rifle. but that's just my .02
i can't believe someone would have a problem with a pic of someone in the military holding a rifle. but that's just my .02
I never said I agreed with it I just said I understood why she may have a problem with it given the very recent Columbine like school shooting.
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Tough **** if you don't like the condescending tone, you get what you ask for for when you tell me that my thoughts are irrational, when the principal of the school actions are the irrational ones. We are in a war, like it or not, to take a school policy that doesn't even work (zero tolerance), and make it apply to a picture of Marine is asanine, but to you it makes perfect sense?
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
What is the first thing a kid that doesn't know the Marines will see when he looks at that picture.....The two big machine guns.....It's not that hard to comprehend that a school administrator would take issue with big guns prominently displayed in a photo, especially with the recent school shooting......
I never said I agreed with it I just said I understood why she may have a problem with it given the very recent Columbine like school shooting.
I never said I agreed with it I just said I understood why she may have a problem with it given the very recent Columbine like school shooting.
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Firearms used in latest school shooting
.22 caliber pistol (stolen)
Effectiveness of school zero tolerance policy = zero
Marine picture in question
M16 (A4 variant, I'm guessing due to the vertical pistol grip, and RAS 5 rail mount system)
M249 SAW
relation between school shootings and the Marine photo = zero
P.S. the M16 is not a machine gun or even a gun for that matter, it is a rifle.
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it's like taking a picture of a mechanic without a wrench. i'm not trying to make you mad, i'm just saying that if you want a picture of someone in the military, it will usually have a weapon of some kind in it. whether it's in the background or foreground, they are there somewhere. everyone is entitled to their opinion, it's just that mine differs from yours.