Hawaii soldier refuses to deploy to Iraq
#16
That's a good point, I can see that happening, which may be why we need to get our soldiers out. I don't want my buddies (or myself) to be caugth up in the middle of all of that. What are we doing there right now? Who are we protecting? I just think that if this war was over everything that GW said it was, we would have pulled our soldiers out by now. I believe that we are there for oil and other financial reasons, and if I get called to go over how can I take pride in that?
#17
It all boils down to, for me anyway, the fact that he joined after 9/11. Joining after that point meant you had to know what you were in for. I joined pre 9/11 and most of the people around me were there for college money or a better job, not out of patriotic duty or wanting to fight. Joining after that and then refusing to go to war, especially considering he's in the ARMY, is like running into a house on fire and then wondering why you're getting burned.
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F*** That
he enlisted and he raised his right hand and commited to that. the government should make an example out of him. we are there to protect our friends and family! if i dont go will you?
it doesnt matter what branch of military you are in. you committed to serve your nation. so why dont you follow through with that till your time is up. so suck it up and drive on.
who ever said that war will be friendly? stupids. you dont think people will die? think again its war!
f his beliefs and send this a** hole to levenworth!
we are protecting our friends and family.
i dont know about you, but i rather be speaking english than aribic!
all i got to say is
STAND BEHIND YOUR TROOPS AND SUPPORT THEM! IF NOT, THEN STAND IN FRONT OF THEM AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU!!
HOOAH!!!
it doesnt matter what branch of military you are in. you committed to serve your nation. so why dont you follow through with that till your time is up. so suck it up and drive on.
who ever said that war will be friendly? stupids. you dont think people will die? think again its war!
f his beliefs and send this a** hole to levenworth!
we are protecting our friends and family.
i dont know about you, but i rather be speaking english than aribic!
all i got to say is
STAND BEHIND YOUR TROOPS AND SUPPORT THEM! IF NOT, THEN STAND IN FRONT OF THEM AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU!!
HOOAH!!!
#20
Originally Posted by ipozestu
I'd say Saddam was right. He had to rule with at iron fist. The people only recognize strength and weakness. All of these little groups were lurking around Iraq for the longest time. They were unable to rise up because of Saddam. It will turn out just like Somalia, watch.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
I'd say Saddam was right. He had to rule with at iron fist. The people only recognize strength and weakness. All of these little groups were lurking around Iraq for the longest time. They were unable to rise up because of Saddam. It will turn out just like Somalia, watch.
Last edited by Salty; 06-07-2006 at 09:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by long5152
he enlisted and he raised his right hand and commited to that. the government should make an example out of him. we are there to protect our friends and family! if i dont go will you?
it doesnt matter what branch of military you are in. you committed to serve your nation. so why dont you follow through with that till your time is up. so suck it up and drive on.
who ever said that war will be friendly? stupids. you dont think people will die? think again its war!
f his beliefs and send this a** hole to levenworth!
we are protecting our friends and family.
i dont know about you, but i rather be speaking english than aribic!
all i got to say is
STAND BEHIND YOUR TROOPS AND SUPPORT THEM! IF NOT, THEN STAND IN FRONT OF THEM AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU!!
HOOAH!!!
it doesnt matter what branch of military you are in. you committed to serve your nation. so why dont you follow through with that till your time is up. so suck it up and drive on.
who ever said that war will be friendly? stupids. you dont think people will die? think again its war!
f his beliefs and send this a** hole to levenworth!
we are protecting our friends and family.
i dont know about you, but i rather be speaking english than aribic!
all i got to say is
STAND BEHIND YOUR TROOPS AND SUPPORT THEM! IF NOT, THEN STAND IN FRONT OF THEM AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU!!
HOOAH!!!
#25
Originally Posted by kyle_RS
HOOOOAAH!!!! hell yeah!!! that "army officer" is a *****! don't sign the contract and not ever expect war! duh! i agree with you completly! thats why i'm enlisted in the United States Army!!!! and i do not want to be muslim and speaking arabic!
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Originally Posted by ftnssn
not doing much to kill the stereotype that the army is full of idiots.
haha yeah i know but i was just having fun! however i do think that if you sign up you don't have a choice and you shouldn't whine if you have to go do what you were trained for! like in any job your going to have to do stuff that you don't really agree with or like! but he did have a choice to sign up...so i don't think he should get any kind of attention, its like a garbage man saying i don't want to go to the bay area to pick up their gabage, EVEN though thats what he's paid to do! so i don't know i am just an army idiot
and how much of an idiot am i? because i want to serve my country and i'm not afraid to die doing what i believe is the right thing??? because i stand up for what i believe in and am doing something about it i'm an idiot??? interesting
#30
He, like so many of us, signed up to fight for the country he wants to protect. The problem is when you are already in and the new president is an idiot and wants to send Americans over seas to die for his selfish reasons. Even though I'm enlisted, I am still a person first and I am not going to fight for a cause that I don't believe in. All of this boiles down to what his motivation is. If he is scared to go then he's a punk and I don't want him in the Army anyway. If he doesn't believe in the cause, then good for him. As long as he excepts the responsibility and carries out his punishment, good for him for taking a stand.