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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Hate Crime?

A CHP officer was murdered a few days ago.
The suspect, who has a history of assaulting police officers, is black.



The murdered officer, Earl Scott, is white.


Sould the suspect be charged with a hate crime?
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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don't know if it should but it won't
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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No, he's a victim of society and "the man." Give that man a soulja medal.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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Nope he should just be charged with Capital murder and put to death, if found guilty.

I've always just felt that murder is murder and it should always be worse than the "Hate Crime" tag. When I think of Hate Crime I think of someone beating someone down or say dragging someone behind a truck. But Capital Murder should always hold just as much if now more weight as the "Hate Crime" tag.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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The question is, why WOULD it be a hate crime? Did witnesses see/hear the shooter do/say anything overtly racist? Does the shooter espouse racist rhetoric? If not, then it's not a hate crime.


Of course it doesn't really matter, because he shot a COP in cold blood. The state will surely kill him.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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No, it's not a hate crime, the victim is a white male.

I think they should let officer Scott's' family and friends take custody of him.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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The guy has a history of violence against cops, wouldn't that make it a hate crime?
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Have all the cops been white?
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It's not really a hate crime in that respect because cops are not a minority group or even an ethnic or social group. Would it be a hate crime if he killed a black cop? Or an asian cop? Or a gay cop?

But it's really irrelevant, because killing a police officer is a worse crime (under the law) than a hate motivated killing not involving a cop...the 'hate crime' status is trumped by the fact that the guy killed a cop. The fact that he has assaulted cops before makes him dangerous and a high risk. And he's gotta be pretty crazy/dumb/evil to shoot a cop...so like I said, he'll get the needle.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Have all the cops been white?

...good question....I could see there being a racial accusation if they were. But again, he killed a cop, so he will die...calling him racist or whatever is truely irrelevant.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
...good question....I could see there being a racial accusation if they were. But again, he killed a cop, so he will die...calling him racist or whatever is truely irrelevant.
+1

In this instance I believe that this scumbag would have killed any cop that rolled up to him during whatever it was he was doing at the time. He had a history of violence against cops, not white cops, not hispanic cops but cops. The needle is too good for this joker.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
It's not really a hate crime in that respect because cops are not a minority group or even an ethnic or social group. Would it be a hate crime if he killed a black cop? Or an asian cop? Or a gay cop?
Cops are too a minority, I happen to know more non-cops than cops.

You can make any group a minority group, gays, redheads, bastards, midgets, gay redheaded bastard midgets...
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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That's true...but those are all born-in traits pretty much. You have a choice weather or not to be a cop. They knew there'd be a lot of people who don't like them based on the fact that they're cops when they signed up.
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What if it's the only thing you know how to do?
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
What if it's the only thing you know how to do?

Then you're not even qualified to be a cop hahaha. If you can't manage any other job than being a law officer, you should NOT be given a gun and authority over anyone hahahaha.



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