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Salty 07-20-2004 11:18 AM

Clinton Advisor, Sandy Berger, took important terror memo's?
 
I only thought Republicans were the crooked one's?

[url]http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040720/D83U6TIO0.html[/url]

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[I][B]WASHINGTON (AP) - President Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a Justice Department investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned...

...The FBI searches of Berger's home and office occurred after National Archives employees told agents they believed they saw Berger place documents in his clothing while reading sensitive Clinton administration papers and that some documents were then noticed missing, officials said.[/B][/I]
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Maybe the Clinton Administration and Democratic party wants to bring down Bush so badly that they're willing to do anything?! Even alter the facts by taking important documents?!

What do suppose was on the documents Berger may have taken?

Salty 07-20-2004 01:47 PM

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[I][B]Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket, pants and socks, and also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission[/B][/I]

I didn't realize you could "inadvertently" stuff classified documents in your pants and socks? [ATTACH]205695[/ATTACH]

Nonetheless, he'll get away with it because he's a Democrat. :mad:

On the other hand, If the most insignificant Repulbican on the totem pole farts he'll have to answer to everyone and everything. :un****ingbelievable:

Kevin M 07-20-2004 03:17 PM

I'm curious, what is Berger doing in there now? Is he even in government service still? How is he still cleared for all that stuff?

Salty 07-20-2004 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=BAN SUVS]I'm curious, what is Berger doing in there now? Is he even in government service still? How is he still cleared for all that stuff?[/QUOTE]


That's a good question...

As a former NSA, I believe Berger was given access to the archives for "one last hoorah" before his testimony to the 9/11 Commision & National Commission on Terrorist Attacks.

I may be wrong though... :confused:

MO REX 07-20-2004 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=BAN SUVS]I'm curious, what is Berger doing in there now? Is he even in government service still? How is he still cleared for all that stuff?[/QUOTE]


He was an informal advisor to the Kerry campaign but since these recent developments he has decided to step down. From what I have read, last year Bill Clinton asked him to review and select documents that would be handed over to the Sept. 11th comission. Other than that I have no Idea what else he has been diong.

Kevin M 07-20-2004 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=MO REX]He was an informal advisor to the Kerry campaign but since these recent developments he has decided to step down. From what I have read, last year Bill Clinton asked him to review and select documents that would be handed over to the Sept. 11th comission. Other than that I have no Idea what else he has been diong.[/QUOTE]

Neither of those positions merits a security clearance, unless he was basically acting as Kerry's "NSA" during his campaign. Major candidates are given basically the same security briefings as the president starting around the time of the primaries. Secret Service details too.

Salty 07-20-2004 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=MO REX]He was an informal advisor to the Kerry campaign but since these recent developments he has decided to step down.[/QUOTE]

I forgot to mention this and thanks for filling us in.

Maybe he was supposed to rid of the pages to make the Bush Administration look worse than it already is? In return, making Kerry look better...

And i agree with Kevin that none of those merit a security clearance. TS SCI type clearances are literally signed in blood with your organs as collateral.

constellation 07-20-2004 05:42 PM

[QUOTE]I didn't realize you could "inadvertently" stuff classified documents in your pants and socks?

Nonetheless, he'll get away with it because he's a Democrat.

On the other hand, If the most insignificant Repulbican on the totem pole farts he'll have to answer to everyone and everything. :un****ingbelievable:[/QUOTE]

thats not completely true, i think it goes both ways. Look at the Clinton "may have smoked pot" vs "Bush did coke and got a DUI" - which drew more media attention? If anything, i think republicans get away with more evil - but just by a tiny tiny bit - in the end they are all polititians.

Kevin M 07-20-2004 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=constellation]thats not completely true, i think it goes both ways. Look at the Clinton "may have smoked pot" vs "Bush did coke and got a DUI" - which drew more media attention? If anything, i think republicans get away with more evil - but just by a tiny tiny bit - in the end they are all polititians.[/QUOTE]

I think the side that is currently in the White House/ control of Congress gets away with less. The other side spends more time harping on the flaws of the other when that happens.

Salty 07-20-2004 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=BAN SUVS]I think the side that is currently in the White House/ control of Congress gets away with less. The other side spends more time harping on the flaws of the other when that happens.[/QUOTE]

Bingo.

constellation 07-20-2004 05:56 PM

[QUOTE]I think the side that is currently in the White House/ control of Congress gets away with less. The other side spends more time harping on the flaws of the other when that happens.[/QUOTE]

yep.

MO REX 07-20-2004 06:33 PM

I wasnt trying to say that he got the clearence because he was an informal advisor to the Kerry campaign. My understanding is that Bill Clinton was asked by the 9/11 comission to produce the classified documents from his administration that related to the 9/11 tragedy (things like the Al Qaeda terror threats in 99 that were missing). Bill Clinton had Berger go through the documents at the National Archives so they could be presented to the comission and that is when the archives noticed that the documents were missing. Since he was the national security advisor for Clinton and he probably helped write most of the documents, why would the archives have a problem with him looking at them? I dont know that this is why he had access to the documents but it seems like the only logical explination since I doubt he still has any position in the government.


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