Arnold to Terminate Gay Marriage in support of CA voters! YEah!!!
 

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced Wednesday he will veto a bill that would have made California the first state to legalize same-sex marriage through its elected lawmakers.

Schwarzenegger said the legislation, given final approval Tuesday by lawmakers, would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved an initiative five years ago. Proposition 22 was placed on the ballot to prevent California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.

“We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote,” the governor’s press secretary, Margita Thompson, said in a statement. “Out of respect for the will of the people, the governor will veto (the bill).”

why do you hate gays?

[QUOTE=dr3d1zzl3]why do you hate gays?[/QUOTE]
You've already asked this question many times. Go read the other thread again.

[QUOTE=jvick125]You've already asked this question many times. Go read the other thread again.[/QUOTE]

It's a valid question because it is so obvious that HD feels like that. Why else would he get so excited that a group of people are getting discriminated against?

A group of "sinners" I should say.

I think everyone should really read this post and think about it.

[quote=dub2w]Dumb,

This isnt a religious forum so I will keep this short.

First, we can assume that you view homosexuality as a sin. Your response is that these people should be somehow punished or castigated to Hell for their lifestyle.

Here is the deal...

When Christ came to Earth, he fullfilled the scripture of the Old Testament. In doing so, he ratified scripture. As Christians, we follow a different guideline than do Jews (dont observe Sabbath, don't follow rules in Deuteronomy, etc...)

Christ, in his short time on Earth, approached "sinners" in a different manner than had been accorded in the OT. As you know, he had the biggest issues with Pharisees, the religious elite who adhered to the Jewish law in a fundamentalist manner. Instead of wishing pain and death on people, he went into their homes, broke bread with them and approached them in their times of trouble (woman at the well).

Again, going back to your own ideology. You have every freedom to view things as you want to view them. However, how would Christ truthfully approach the issue? Break bread with them, or wish Hell upon them? Enter in their home, or call them names and scoff at their troubles?

Ultimately, Christ showed through his actions and teachings that love is key to understanding or place on Earth and thereafter.

Peace[/quote]

Think about who is the sinner by judging others. It is no ones place to judge anyone else.

Craptacular. Arnold needs to go.

[QUOTE=SilverScoober02]It's a valid question because it is so obvious that HD feels like that. Why else would he get so excited that a group of people are getting discriminated against?

A group of "sinners" I should say.

I think everyone should really read this post and think about it.



Think about who is the sinner by judging others. It is no ones place to judge anyone else.[/QUOTE]
What about for those of us that are not Christians. Or even religious at all?

And the reason I said that in my first post was to keep this thread from turning out to being the same as the [url=https://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110522]last one[/url].

[QUOTE=jvick125]What about for those of us that are not Christians. Or even religious at all?

And the reason I said that in my first post was to keep this thread from turning out to being the same as the [url=https://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110522]last one[/url].[/QUOTE]

Why do you care then? It is scary that the legislature is going around what the voters already decided but to be excited about people getting discriminated against is well beyond my comprehension.

These people are denied a basic freedom that most americans take for granted and everyone thinks that it is ok? I just cannot fathom it.

I could care less about what the marriage status is but if the voters said no then that should be the end of story until another election is held. That is all.

[QUOTE=dr3d1zzl3]why do you hate gays?[/QUOTE]

Why would you think I hate gays? I know you don't actually think that, because you are smarter than that. I think sodomy is nasty, but I don't hate gays as individuals.

The question is why do so many gays hate heterosexuals and the conventional institutuion of marriage? I would guess it's because they can never be "normal" sexually, nor procreate from homosexual unions. Most gays are happy with civil unions and making sure that gays have equal legal rights afforded to civil unions between heteros... on that 100% agree.
Gays will be increasingly less happy with civil unions as this debate continues, so who do you think is doing the baiting?
It was nature's design for gays not to procreate, not mine, so stop hatin' :).

I have personally known many homos and heteros.. probably in proportion to their statistical makeup. Besides them making crude comments about things they'd like to do to me (women just think it but don't say it :)); all I have met are great people.

Arnold's decision is a victory because we have a governor that upholds the will and legal intent of the people he represents. Yeah ARNOLD!

[QUOTE=SilverScoober02]Think about who is the sinner by judging others. It is no ones place to judge anyone else.[/QUOTE]

True dat!

[QUOTE=lojasmo]Craptacular. Arnold needs to go.[/QUOTE]

He needs to go, but this isn't the reason why. We the people voted on this and it should Stand!!

[QUOTE=gilmore25]He needs to go, but this isn't the reason why. We the people voted on this and it should Stand!![/QUOTE]



...the south voted to uphold slavery too...it's still discrimination and unconstitutional...

[QUOTE=MVWRX]...the south voted to uphold slavery too...it's still discrimination and unconstitutional...[/QUOTE]

Ok, I can stoop that low too. Liberalism created the state of poverty in LA, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans.
That blood is on the hands of liberal policymakers.

Discrimination is normal state. A man can't marry his brother, sister, parent, child, dog, cat, etc. Discrimination? Yes. Anything wrong with that? No.
Slavery, on the other hand, is racial, so nice try.

Uh...that's speculation, whereas what I posted is simply truth. Slave owners wanted slavery to stay around so they voted for it. It was wrong because it was discrimination so the gov't said up yours to the slave owners and made slavery illegal. Gay people want to get married, and the majority of people discriminate against them and say no...the gov't should be able to set it right.



Speculating as to why there is poverty in LA is totally different, not to mention that the problem has a lot more to do with the corruption and financial state of that area than it does with the wellfare state.

Your comment about gays hating heterosexual marriage is laughable at best. They don't hate it, they want to be a part of it. YOU are the one who thinks that them being a part of it would make marriage worse...they have every intent of leaving it be the beautiful union that it is. They are out to destroy nothing...you only THINK they are because you are very prejudice against them (this can be obsearved by all the comments you've made in these couple of threads...)


Your point of view is similar to those in the middle east who maintain that women should not have the same rights as men. They say that women are out to 'ruin' government and therefore should not be elected or allowed to vote. And that any women that doesn't cover her whole body is out to 'ruin' society. When really, they're just looking to have the same rights as the men.

You've condemned those very people, but now when it's your turn to recognize how the gay minority has been discriminated against you sound just like them; scared and ignorant.

[QUOTE=MVWRX]
Your point of view is similar to those in the middle east who maintain that women should not have the same rights as men. They say that women are out to 'ruin' government and therefore should not be elected or allowed to vote.[/QUOTE]

But there is evidence here in the U.S. that supports such notions... you don't need to look any further than Nancy Pilosi, Barbara Boxer, and Hitlery Clinton! I'm siding with the middle east on this one.

...if you're seriously saying women shouldn't have the same rights as men (I hope you were kidding...), then this whole topic is rediculous to discuss with you. Why would you give any minority rights if you don't even believe in human equality?!?


BTW, I have no respect for anyone who doesn't beleive that all humans are born equall and I think they are, if fact, the only group worth discriminating against because of their views.

[QUOTE=MVWRX]...if you're seriously saying women shouldn't have the same rights as men (I hope you were kidding...), then this whole topic is rediculous to discuss with you. Why would you give any minority rights if you don't even believe in human equality?!?


BTW, I have no respect for anyone who doesn't beleive that all humans are born equall and I think they are, if fact, the only group worth discriminating against because of their views.[/QUOTE]

Well said man, in every post.

I have since stopped arguing with Mr. Dumb's bigoted point of view. He will always be that way and like you said there is no sense discussing it with him because he will not ever change his narrow minded view of the world.

i know of only one way to cure him..

[img]http://www.christianaction.org/Hug.jpg[/img]

give him the ass pounding he yearns for, i mean all that repressed homosexuality bubbling up in the form of hatred...

someone needs some man love.. haha

[QUOTE=dr3d1zzl3]i know of only one way to cure him..

[img]http://www.christianaction.org/Hug.jpg[/img]

give him the ass pounding he yearns for, i mean all that repressed homosexuality bubbling up in the form of hatred...

someone needs some man love.. haha[/QUOTE]

Dre should know a thing or two about ass pounding...

[QUOTE=dr3d1zzl3]i know of only one way to cure him..

[/QUOTE]
:rotfl:

Look at the adress on that pic? :confused:

Guys, don't be mad at me because I've been chatting online with babes all day.

[QUOTE=HellaDumb]Guys, don't be mad at me because I've been chatting online with babes all day.[/QUOTE]

HAHA Whatever, you're mom goes to college.

[QUOTE=HellaDumb]Guys, don't be mad at me because I've been chatting online with babes all day.[/QUOTE]


Watch out it might be MVWRX acting like a women to lead you on!!

[QUOTE=gilmore25]Dre should know a thing or two about ass pounding...[/QUOTE]


sure do, but i cant help it if she likes rough anal.. im just there to please, so please make sure your mom knows that next time i will try to not smack her as hard..

[QUOTE=gilmore25]Watch out it might be MVWRX acting like a women to lead you on!![/QUOTE]


I don't know exactly what you're insinuating, but f*** off.

[QUOTE=gilmore25]Watch out it might be MVWRX acting like a women to lead you on!![/QUOTE]

Oh no. HellaDumb has his own little dominion groupies!!

Run for the hills!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=HellaDumb]Guys, don't be mad at me because I've been chatting online with babes all day.[/QUOTE]

wonder what happens when hella goes to meet one of these babes and it turns out she is a he, and that they still want to commit to each other no matter what..

I think Arnold did the right thing and I could careless if gays wed.

[quote][b]Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced Wednesday that he will veto a bill that would allow gay marriages in California.

Schwarzenegger said the legislation, given final approval Tuesday by lawmakers, would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved a ballot initiative five years ago. Proposition 22 prevents California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.

“We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote,” the governor’s press secretary, Margita Thompson, said in a statement. “Out of respect for the will of the people, the governor will veto (the bill).”[/b][/quote]

He's absolutely right. But don't worry... the gays will have their day just like the women and blacks once did. Give it time.

[QUOTE=dr3d1zzl3]wonder what happens when hella goes to meet one of these babes and it turns out she is a he, and that they still want to commit to each other no matter what..[/QUOTE]

Dunno... civil union? ahahhahahahah!

[QUOTE=gilmore25]He needs to go, but this isn't the reason why. We the people voted on this and it should Stand!![/QUOTE]

The voter referendum didn't address the rights of californians. There are two different issues here. One does not preclude the other.

[QUOTE=HellaDumb]But there is evidence here in the U.S. that supports such notions... you don't need to look any further than Nancy Pilosi, Barbara Boxer, and Hitlery Clinton! I'm siding with the middle east on this one.[/QUOTE]

Well that settles it....you're with the terrorists.

[QUOTE=lojasmo]Well that settles it....you're with the terrorists.[/QUOTE]

w00t

[QUOTE=lojasmo]The voter referendum didn't address the rights of californians. There are two different issues here. One does not preclude the other.[/QUOTE]

Can you expand on that a little, I'm not sure exactly what part of this thread you're addressing (Arnold in general or this veto and the related topic)

i dont know about you all, but i hate ***s. God destroyed a whole city because it was full of ***s. i dont judge them to their face, thats Gods job, i just dont like em, its freaking nasty. its obviouse to me that man and woman were made to be together, not man and man. the anatomy just doesnt fit, that should be obvious enough. if God meant for man to be with man he would given us a p*ssy too, ha ha ha! i made myself laugh!

[QUOTE=huffyrex]i dont know about you all, but i hate ***s.[b] God destroyed a whole city because it was full of ***s.[/b] i dont judge them to their face, thats Gods job, i just dont like em, its freaking nasty. its obviouse to me that man and woman were made to be together, not man and man. the anatomy just doesnt fit, that should be obvious enough. if God meant for man to be with man he would given us a p*ssy too, ha ha ha! i made myself laugh![/QUOTE]
Might want to talk to a Jesuit Priest about this comment. If you've had any proper biblical story education, you'd know that this is not the meaning of this story. You have it wrong.

[QUOTE=huffyrex]i dont know about you all, but i hate ***s. God destroyed a whole city because it was full of ***s. i dont judge them to their face, thats Gods job, i just dont like em, its freaking nasty. its obviouse to me that man and woman were made to be together, not man and man. the anatomy just doesnt fit, that should be obvious enough. if God meant for man to be with man he would given us a p*ssy too, ha ha ha! i made myself laugh![/QUOTE]


idiot cleansing isle three please..

[QUOTE=huffyrex]i dont know about you all, but i hate ***s. God destroyed a whole city because it was full of ***s. i dont judge them to their face, thats Gods job, i just dont like em, its freaking nasty. its obviouse to me that man and woman were made to be together, not man and man. the anatomy just doesnt fit, that should be obvious enough. if God meant for man to be with man he would given us a p*ssy too, ha ha ha! i made myself laugh![/QUOTE]
I'm not a fan of sodomy, but cmon man they are people just like you.

[QUOTE=huffyrex]i dont know about you all, but i hate ***s. God destroyed a whole city because it was full of ***s. i dont judge them to their face, thats Gods job, i just dont like em, its freaking nasty. its obviouse to me that man and woman were made to be together, not man and man. the anatomy just doesnt fit, that should be obvious enough. if God meant for man to be with man he would given us a p*ssy too, ha ha ha! i made myself laugh![/QUOTE]

Wow, you are a douchebag.

your all lost.

you all must be libs.

sorry i shouldnt be posting right now, im a little drunk.

Bible thumper getting drunk on a thursday? Who woulda thunk it!

yeah i know, im going to hell with all the fa*s

[QUOTE=huffyrex]sorry i shouldnt be posting right now, im a little drunk.[/QUOTE]


[img]http://yourimg.com/hosted_images/05/94/08/lover11a.jpg[/img]

so thats what you look like.

[QUOTE=MVWRX]BTW, I have no respect for anyone who doesn't beleive that all humans are born equall and I think they are, if fact, the only group worth discriminating against because of their views.[/QUOTE]

All humans are born equal?
You aren't serious, are you?
Or, do you mean that all humans born are entitled to the same & equal protection of the law/gov't?

haha the google ad!!

[IMG]http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CKbU2cGjwZe7cRDYBRhPMghlw6iKCGd4yQ[/IMG]

feakn awesome
edgar, :)

OH and btw these gay activist are something else

i mean be smart!!! stop plastering a bunch of men with men and start showing just hot chicks kissing each other

i guaranty your little peace of legislature would have passed in a flash if you did that

edgar, :)

u rang?

[IMG]http://www.bodog.com/images/bodog-girl/kissing3-new.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.botinok.co.il/spaw/images/aut_girls_kissing_035.jpg[/IMG]

[b]my best friends gf:[/b]
[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/beachbabygurl107/college/CIMG0114.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=jvick125]u rang?

[IMG]http://www.bodog.com/images/bodog-girl/kissing3-new.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.botinok.co.il/spaw/images/aut_girls_kissing_035.jpg[/IMG]

[b]my best friends gf:[/b]
[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/beachbabygurl107/college/CIMG0114.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That is exactly what this thread needed! w00t ;) :banana:

You're welcome, Scoober.

wow the second pic makes me really :banana: haha

mind inviting a friend over next time there visiting? together :D

edgar. :)

[QUOTE=Oaf]All humans are born equal?
You aren't serious, are you?
Or, do you mean that all humans born are entitled to the same & equal protection of the law/gov't?[/QUOTE]


Obviously that's what I meant, sorry for being unclear...

[QUOTE=jvick125]u rang?

[IMG]http://www.bodog.com/images/bodog-girl/kissing3-new.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.botinok.co.il/spaw/images/aut_girls_kissing_035.jpg[/IMG]

[b]my best friends gf:[/b]
[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/beachbabygurl107/college/CIMG0114.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

More pics please..

see gay rights aint so bad... lol haha got to love contradictions huh haha

Does anyone other than jesus extremists, closet homosexuals trying to hide from it, or gay people themselves who want to get married actually get worked up over this topic?

[QUOTE=gilmore25]More pics please..[/QUOTE]
[url=http://images.google.com/images?q=girls%20kissing&hl=en&hs=r9X&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi]Here Ya Go[/URL]...


Oh here's a good one:
[IMG]http://www.dynamo-durst.at/images/swe_girls_kissing_0622.jpg[/IMG]